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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6339455" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>No more so than any other skill ranking. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The players who can't follow are just going to be twiddling their thumbs while the other ones do it (unless they want to have some pratfalls) so catching that thief RIGHT NOW can't be all that important. Let 'em go, hunt down his hideout with Persuasion on some thugs, stab him in his sleep, MUCH less effort. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which sounds like mostly a cosmetic difference (which is why they were in my group with stuff like Intimidation or History -- the "just like X but different" skills). Either way, they're going to go get that thief. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What I mean is that the <em>results</em> are very binary. There's a hard division between someone who makes that check and someone who doesn't, which means that, if the whole party is to do something, those who can't make the check need some other way to contribute to the goal.</p><p></p><p>The goal can't be "jump over that pit," because some folks just won't be able to do it.</p><p></p><p>If the goal is something like "stop that thief before she robs again!", then jumping over that pit isn't the only way to do it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So why did they try? Why not use a skill they're actually good in that won't result in an ugly fall to your death? All things being equal, it's better to find the thief with A-, B-, or C- ranked skills than it is to chase them over the rooftops. Leave the acrobatics and athletics as special color for how the dex/str people did it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. Which means those two skills are a lot more limited in their applications than the skills I ranked higher.</p><p></p><p>They're mostly flavor skills. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Y'know, I kind of forgot about this. It's something Athletics/Acrobatics shares in that they're frequent ways to bust out of spells that you otherwise might not save against -- "active saves" so to speak. </p><p></p><p>That might be worth promoting them over the other D-ranks, and demoting those who don't have these uses into F-ranks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6339455, member: 2067"] No more so than any other skill ranking. :p The players who can't follow are just going to be twiddling their thumbs while the other ones do it (unless they want to have some pratfalls) so catching that thief RIGHT NOW can't be all that important. Let 'em go, hunt down his hideout with Persuasion on some thugs, stab him in his sleep, MUCH less effort. :) Which sounds like mostly a cosmetic difference (which is why they were in my group with stuff like Intimidation or History -- the "just like X but different" skills). Either way, they're going to go get that thief. What I mean is that the [I]results[/I] are very binary. There's a hard division between someone who makes that check and someone who doesn't, which means that, if the whole party is to do something, those who can't make the check need some other way to contribute to the goal. The goal can't be "jump over that pit," because some folks just won't be able to do it. If the goal is something like "stop that thief before she robs again!", then jumping over that pit isn't the only way to do it. So why did they try? Why not use a skill they're actually good in that won't result in an ugly fall to your death? All things being equal, it's better to find the thief with A-, B-, or C- ranked skills than it is to chase them over the rooftops. Leave the acrobatics and athletics as special color for how the dex/str people did it. Right. Which means those two skills are a lot more limited in their applications than the skills I ranked higher. They're mostly flavor skills. Y'know, I kind of forgot about this. It's something Athletics/Acrobatics shares in that they're frequent ways to bust out of spells that you otherwise might not save against -- "active saves" so to speak. That might be worth promoting them over the other D-ranks, and demoting those who don't have these uses into F-ranks. [/QUOTE]
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