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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5164533" data-attributes="member: 4937">???House ruling that the Bo9S is not allowed is not only reasonable in my opinion, but the preferred ruling - since the Bo9S classes aren't balanced with classes from other material IMO.  The only exception I would make would be for a campaign where only the Bo9S classes were allowed.Personally, I agree with you that its bad rules that let NPCs do what PCs cannot, but if I understand you correctly its worse than that.  Letting an NPC do things that a PC can't is potentially only a minor irritation, but letting one player break the house rules selectively is just simply bad DMing that has nothing to do with bad house rules.This isn't necessarily bad, but its particular implementation could be terrible I agree.  Personally, I have no problem with the conception of a huge creature falling down and crushing things, but good rules for it would be tricky.  1) The Creature would have to collapse in a fairly random direction.  2) The collapse would have to have no more chance of success than a normal attack, ergo it would have to involve an attack roll or reflex save.3) The collapse damage would have to be appropriate to the level of damage expected for a falling weight, and in particular, would have to take into account that only a portion of the creatures weight would impact and be born by any one thing beneath it.  Most of the weight of a collapsed frost giant would be born by the ground.This is just an example of someone letting their own moral values impinge too much on the alignment system of D&D.  If you are personally a moral relativist, either you need to accept that the D&D world doesn't describe the world you believe really exists, or else you need to throw out alignments so that the D&D world can describe the world you believe exists.  Try to make the generally morally absolute world of alignments fit into a morally relativistic viewpoint is doomed to failure.</blockquote>

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