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<blockquote data-quote="Libertad" data-source="post: 9875651" data-attributes="member: 6750502"><p><a href="https://www.tgdmb.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=53055&sid=e327d0497395090151977dfb8fa16a52" target="_blank"><strong>Back in 2012 Frank made a thread claiming that 5e was actually a Vaporware product based on the belief that their annual Christmas layoffs was evidence that the Edition wasn't being worked on at all.</strong></a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.tgdmb.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=489746#p489746" target="_blank"><strong>5 years later, a poster performed thread necromancy to say that this is the funniest thread on the entire board.</strong></a> Said person was a relative outsider to the forums and was quickly dogpiled by everyone else, with Frank insisting that despite actually being released, 5e was still vaporware because the "full version" was supposedly never released, only a scaled-down version. Frank also made the claim that 4e has a larger fanbase than 5e, and other posters weighed in to claim that both 5e wasn't popular, that virtually no products have been released for it, and also displayed skepticism at polling numbers such as the amount of 5e games on Roll20.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-5th-edition-too-big-for-there-to-be-a-6th-edition.667330/page-2#post-7807949" target="_blank"><strong>As someone else on EN World once said, that thread was full of people denying reality.</strong></a></p><p></p><p>This is perhaps the most poignant example of the Gaming Den being a cult of personality. The forum regulars feel obligated to back up Frank's fact-free statements despite styling themselves as no-holds-barred acerbic geniuses unafraid to tell people when they're being stupid, and smack down outsiders who point out that Frank is using a definition of vaporware that nobody else uses. Same thing happened when many of them also ran with the Tome's claim that the entire field of economics is voodoo science; despite the viewpoint of economics being a legitimate science being an accepted academic standard among educated people across the political spectrum.</p><p></p><p>And that's the sad thing about the Gaming Den. Many regulars end up repeating statements that make them look crazy and/or hateful to the wider public, and use the scorn they encounter on virtually every other site from saying such things as evidence of being persecuted geniuses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Libertad, post: 9875651, member: 6750502"] [URL='https://www.tgdmb.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=53055&sid=e327d0497395090151977dfb8fa16a52'][B]Back in 2012 Frank made a thread claiming that 5e was actually a Vaporware product based on the belief that their annual Christmas layoffs was evidence that the Edition wasn't being worked on at all.[/B][/URL] [URL='https://www.tgdmb.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=489746#p489746'][B]5 years later, a poster performed thread necromancy to say that this is the funniest thread on the entire board.[/B][/URL] Said person was a relative outsider to the forums and was quickly dogpiled by everyone else, with Frank insisting that despite actually being released, 5e was still vaporware because the "full version" was supposedly never released, only a scaled-down version. Frank also made the claim that 4e has a larger fanbase than 5e, and other posters weighed in to claim that both 5e wasn't popular, that virtually no products have been released for it, and also displayed skepticism at polling numbers such as the amount of 5e games on Roll20. [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-5th-edition-too-big-for-there-to-be-a-6th-edition.667330/page-2#post-7807949'][B]As someone else on EN World once said, that thread was full of people denying reality.[/B][/URL] This is perhaps the most poignant example of the Gaming Den being a cult of personality. The forum regulars feel obligated to back up Frank's fact-free statements despite styling themselves as no-holds-barred acerbic geniuses unafraid to tell people when they're being stupid, and smack down outsiders who point out that Frank is using a definition of vaporware that nobody else uses. Same thing happened when many of them also ran with the Tome's claim that the entire field of economics is voodoo science; despite the viewpoint of economics being a legitimate science being an accepted academic standard among educated people across the political spectrum. And that's the sad thing about the Gaming Den. Many regulars end up repeating statements that make them look crazy and/or hateful to the wider public, and use the scorn they encounter on virtually every other site from saying such things as evidence of being persecuted geniuses. [/QUOTE]
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