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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7020822" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>I'm AFB so I can't check on the other conditions (doesn't sunlight just delay the transformation?) but I have to say, I don't think Remove Curse is an easy condition to fulfill. Of the four classes that can cast Remove Curse in 5E (cleric, paladin, warlock, wizard), two of them (warlock and wizard) have a limited spell list with lots of pressure on it (Hypnotic Pattern, Fireball, etc.) and I can honestly say I've never seen a member of either class select Remove Curse as one of their spells known, in 5E. Another of the four (paladin) only gets Remove Curse at 9th level. That means that for a party composed of 1st through 8th level PCs, the only feasible way to Remove Curse is if you happen to have a 5th+ cleric in your party. Bards, druids, and paladins don't cut it here.</p><p></p><p>I'd guesstimate that a good 60% of PC parties would find a Vargouille curse a challenging thing to stop. Maybe they try to keep the victim in sunlight as much as possible while the wizard hurriedly researches Remove Curse over the course of three to four weeks. (AFB, but does the curse even <em>take</em> three weeks to kick in?) Or maybe they have to go looking for a treasure with a Remove Curse scroll.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 7020822, member: 6787650"] I'm AFB so I can't check on the other conditions (doesn't sunlight just delay the transformation?) but I have to say, I don't think Remove Curse is an easy condition to fulfill. Of the four classes that can cast Remove Curse in 5E (cleric, paladin, warlock, wizard), two of them (warlock and wizard) have a limited spell list with lots of pressure on it (Hypnotic Pattern, Fireball, etc.) and I can honestly say I've never seen a member of either class select Remove Curse as one of their spells known, in 5E. Another of the four (paladin) only gets Remove Curse at 9th level. That means that for a party composed of 1st through 8th level PCs, the only feasible way to Remove Curse is if you happen to have a 5th+ cleric in your party. Bards, druids, and paladins don't cut it here. I'd guesstimate that a good 60% of PC parties would find a Vargouille curse a challenging thing to stop. Maybe they try to keep the victim in sunlight as much as possible while the wizard hurriedly researches Remove Curse over the course of three to four weeks. (AFB, but does the curse even [I]take[/I] three weeks to kick in?) Or maybe they have to go looking for a treasure with a Remove Curse scroll. [/QUOTE]
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