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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7368224" data-attributes="member: 996">Yes, and if you can intimidate or trick an opponent (CHA) you can turn the fight in your favor, similarly, if you can see through your opponent's gambits or show of bravado (WIS), and, if you can devise a lethal strategy well in advance (INT), that could carry the day.That has come up in another thread, recently, and every stat could conceivably be critical at some point in a fight.  DEX, INT & CHA, in particular, early in a fight.  CON and WIS, particularly, later in one.  (STR's contribution is just obvious.)  There are examples of games that have gone there, to an extent.  When he worked on developing RuneQuest, Steve Perrin, a founding member of the SCA, was dissatisfied with the way D&D modeled medieval combat, and what RQ ultimately did for weapon attacks was a % based on skill with the weapon (primarily) modified by STR, DEX, INT, SIZ & POW.  (SIZ and POW obviously, differed from D&D stats, SIZ prettymuch doubled-down on STR, literally how big you are; POW (power) was a mystical stat used in dealing with spirits, gods, & magic, WIS would be the closest D&D analog not already in RQ).  That weapon skill also advanced as a result of actually using that weapon, in actual fights, and from training with it afterwards, independently of advancement in other skills.  Revolutionary, for '78.  Still not that bad, really. In a game with quixotic 'Vancian' magic and races like gnomes and tabaxi (among many others, those aren't nearly the worst offenders, they just popped into my head because they've been played in my 5e games) and monsters like gelatinous cubes?  How much realism can we get away with /pretending/ to want?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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