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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 9192241" data-attributes="member: 3400">I punted out of 4e after about 9 months of play and never went back to it. One of my problems with it was it was too grindy. Granted, this was apparently before &quot;math got fixed&quot; but by then it was too late. Plus, there were a LOT of other things that I didn't like about it.But of the things I DID like about it:Layout and clarity - 4e was definitely easy to grasp, the books easy to reference with lots of bullet points and shading boxes, the higher-contrast with printed text white pages instead of the varieties of tan/yellow/brown we've had in 3e/5e. I'd LOVE for WotC to reengage some of those layout principles and ideas. DMG page 42 - while there are some issues I have with the table, it does help make improvised actions easier to adjudicateDMing advice - the DMGs have explicit, good, 1-2 page sections of advice on a number of topics that frequently get short shrift</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 9192241, member: 3400"] I punted out of 4e after about 9 months of play and never went back to it. One of my problems with it was it was too grindy. Granted, this was apparently before "math got fixed" but by then it was too late. Plus, there were a [B]LOT[/B] of other things that I didn't like about it. But of the things I [B]DID[/B] like about it: [B]Layout and clarity[/B] - 4e was definitely easy to grasp, the books easy to reference with lots of bullet points and shading boxes, the higher-contrast with printed text white pages instead of the varieties of tan/yellow/brown we've had in 3e/5e. I'd LOVE for WotC to reengage some of those layout principles and ideas. [B]DMG page 42[/B] - while there are some issues I have with the table, it does help make improvised actions easier to adjudicate [B]DMing advice[/B] - the DMGs have explicit, good, 1-2 page sections of advice on a number of topics that frequently get short shrift [/QUOTE]

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