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<blockquote data-quote="Dustin Cooper" data-source="post: 9194796" data-attributes="member: 6922447"><p>So I want to talk about a class I like for the opposite reasons that most people like 4e classes.&nbsp; You know how some players like playing something simple?&nbsp; Like the kind of person who in 5e, picks Champion Fighter and seems satisfied to just say &quot;I hit it with my sword&quot; every round of combat and watch all the damage they do?&nbsp; I'm glad simple classes exist for people like that, and once Essentials came out, those options came to 4e without replacing the more complex options.&nbsp; Like I had one campaign where my girlfriend was happy to play a slayer and just say &quot;I hit it with my sword&quot; every round while everyone else was engaging with more complex tactics, and it felt like she was contributing about as much as everyone else.&nbsp; But for whatever reason, it seems customary for the simple options to all be martial stuff.&nbsp; Like in 5e, it's definitely simpler to be a warlock than a wizard, but it's still a clear step up in complexity from an average fighter.&nbsp; 4e designers realized that some people who want something very simple might also have the fantasy of being able to use magic, and thus we got our new sorcerer class: the Elementalist.&nbsp; An elementalist picks an element (air, water, earth, or fire), gets a single target at-will ranged 10 attack called Elemental Bolt, one of two options for an at-will AoE attack for their element, and an encounter power to add additional targets and boost damage of one of those other two attacks.&nbsp; And that's basically it.&nbsp; It's a perfectly good class for someone who just wants to say &quot;I throw fire at it&quot; every round of every combat.&nbsp; I'm glad this option exists, and I find it kind of surprising that 5e didn't move forward with a similarly dead simple magic option.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Dustin Cooper, post: 9194796, member: 6922447"] So I want to talk about a class I like for the opposite reasons that most people like 4e classes. You know how some players like playing something simple? Like the kind of person who in 5e, picks Champion Fighter and seems satisfied to just say "I hit it with my sword" every round of combat and watch all the damage they do? I'm glad simple classes exist for people like that, and once Essentials came out, those options came to 4e without replacing the more complex options. Like I had one campaign where my girlfriend was happy to play a slayer and just say "I hit it with my sword" every round while everyone else was engaging with more complex tactics, and it felt like she was contributing about as much as everyone else. But for whatever reason, it seems customary for the simple options to all be martial stuff. Like in 5e, it's definitely simpler to be a warlock than a wizard, but it's still a clear step up in complexity from an average fighter. 4e designers realized that some people who want something very simple might also have the fantasy of being able to use magic, and thus we got our new sorcerer class: the Elementalist. An elementalist picks an element (air, water, earth, or fire), gets a single target at-will ranged 10 attack called Elemental Bolt, one of two options for an at-will AoE attack for their element, and an encounter power to add additional targets and boost damage of one of those other two attacks. And that's basically it. It's a perfectly good class for someone who just wants to say "I throw fire at it" every round of every combat. I'm glad this option exists, and I find it kind of surprising that 5e didn't move forward with a similarly dead simple magic option. [/QUOTE]

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