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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9227780" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Now, see, I always thought that Martial essentially is 'chi'. A monk and a fighter are fundamentally similar. One might achieve his mastery in a more systematic way through a codified set of training and maybe the other just got tougher and tougher by figuring it all out on his own. They are still both drawing on 'internal power'. If you do NOT ascribe to the view that Martial is some form of internal power, then what is it? The power of mundanity? That's not a power source I want! That smacks of all the "but fighters are just normal guys" crud that I most want to AVOID. So I inevitably see the monk as simply just another evocation of martial power, and everything I see of, for instance, Chinese fantasy reinforces that view! Now, maybe in other games that might not be as good an interpretation, but I think it works well in the context of 4e.</p></blockquote><p></p>