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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 9250517" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>Anybody got suggestions for a good 4e Adventure? I might try to get a group together for me to DM but I really can't think of a campaign at the moment.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe to someone with D&D experience, but 'Enchanter' is just a fancy word for a Wizard for a lot of people. And with an Invoker in the game I don't think 'Evoker' is the best name. At best, outsiders would know what a Necromancer is and I think a 4e Necromancer would be better served by being a class of its own (I'd make it a Leader myself where they use minion to supplement their allies' tactical positioning in battle in addition to healing and debuffs) instead of trying to stuff WAY too much into the Wizard.</p><p></p><p>My complaint about the magic schools was more so the adding of additional keywords for what felt like needless mechanical details. The implements were a much more interesting gameplay mechanic because they spoke to how a player approaches playing the character and not some vaguely defined topology that may or may not even exist in universe? Adding elemental keyword for Earth and Wind would have been ultimately more useful IMO.</p><p></p><p>The Magic Schools just felt like an appeal to grognard.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I really don't get how applying a stance to a basic melee attack is that different from picking between two at-wills, especially considering Basic Melee Attack is already an at-will power. It seems like a disingenuous nitpick from people who oppose the concept of 'Powers' to begin with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 9250517, member: 7015698"] Anybody got suggestions for a good 4e Adventure? I might try to get a group together for me to DM but I really can't think of a campaign at the moment. Maybe to someone with D&D experience, but 'Enchanter' is just a fancy word for a Wizard for a lot of people. And with an Invoker in the game I don't think 'Evoker' is the best name. At best, outsiders would know what a Necromancer is and I think a 4e Necromancer would be better served by being a class of its own (I'd make it a Leader myself where they use minion to supplement their allies' tactical positioning in battle in addition to healing and debuffs) instead of trying to stuff WAY too much into the Wizard. My complaint about the magic schools was more so the adding of additional keywords for what felt like needless mechanical details. The implements were a much more interesting gameplay mechanic because they spoke to how a player approaches playing the character and not some vaguely defined topology that may or may not even exist in universe? Adding elemental keyword for Earth and Wind would have been ultimately more useful IMO. The Magic Schools just felt like an appeal to grognard. I really don't get how applying a stance to a basic melee attack is that different from picking between two at-wills, especially considering Basic Melee Attack is already an at-will power. It seems like a disingenuous nitpick from people who oppose the concept of 'Powers' to begin with. [/QUOTE]
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