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<blockquote data-quote="W'rkncacnter" data-source="post: 9304506" data-attributes="member: 7033455"><p>i mean...ok then, i guess. i'd still like to hear it, even if it's as a PM, but if you don't wanna talk about it then that's fine.</p><p></p><p>considering that my conclusion was derived from the text i was directly quoting i still don't really understand, but whatever, i guess.</p><p></p><p>and i was arguing against your reasoning as to why the examples provided weren't good ones, which was relevant at the time because the other example hadn't come along.</p><p></p><p>also, i never said you said there "weren't any examples". i don't even know why you'd think i meant that. i said the example that you say made my post redundant hadn't been posted yet, which it hadn't.</p><p></p><p>i'd argue it did and it did, but sure. in fact, i only really mentioned the original examples again because i was replying to you anyway and figured i might as well.</p><p></p><p>you considered an ability that outright says it's a natural ability to not be one. i don't know what you can call that other then wrong.</p><p></p><p>once again, it literally explicitly states the ability is "natural to the Savage". that is a direct quote from the text. a natural ability is, by definition, not supernatural.</p><p></p><p>uh...about which statement? because if about the former, then no, because how you rule something and what the thing actually is can be (and in this case would be) different things. if about the latter, then no, because disagreeing with someone is not the same as calling their viewpoint absurd.</p><p></p><p>i'm talking about it because <em>you</em> accused <em>me</em> of something i could not possibly have been doing, and if you had just checked the post order beforehand you would have known that. again, i discussed the examples again because i was replying to you anyway and figured i might as well. i assume, since you're discussing the examples again as well, that you thought the same way. despite that, i can recognize that the discussion of those examples isn't your actual point (though i still responded to those parts since, for the third time, i might as well).</p><p></p><p>so here's <em>my</em> actual point - if you're going to accuse someone of doing something, then, at the very least, <em>check if it was even possible for them to have done what you are accusing them of in the first place. </em>it is the most basic courtesy you could <em>possibly </em>afford.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="W'rkncacnter, post: 9304506, member: 7033455"] i mean...ok then, i guess. i'd still like to hear it, even if it's as a PM, but if you don't wanna talk about it then that's fine. considering that my conclusion was derived from the text i was directly quoting i still don't really understand, but whatever, i guess. and i was arguing against your reasoning as to why the examples provided weren't good ones, which was relevant at the time because the other example hadn't come along. also, i never said you said there "weren't any examples". i don't even know why you'd think i meant that. i said the example that you say made my post redundant hadn't been posted yet, which it hadn't. i'd argue it did and it did, but sure. in fact, i only really mentioned the original examples again because i was replying to you anyway and figured i might as well. you considered an ability that outright says it's a natural ability to not be one. i don't know what you can call that other then wrong. once again, it literally explicitly states the ability is "natural to the Savage". that is a direct quote from the text. a natural ability is, by definition, not supernatural. uh...about which statement? because if about the former, then no, because how you rule something and what the thing actually is can be (and in this case would be) different things. if about the latter, then no, because disagreeing with someone is not the same as calling their viewpoint absurd. i'm talking about it because [I]you[/I] accused [I]me[/I] of something i could not possibly have been doing, and if you had just checked the post order beforehand you would have known that. again, i discussed the examples again because i was replying to you anyway and figured i might as well. i assume, since you're discussing the examples again as well, that you thought the same way. despite that, i can recognize that the discussion of those examples isn't your actual point (though i still responded to those parts since, for the third time, i might as well). so here's [I]my[/I] actual point - if you're going to accuse someone of doing something, then, at the very least, [I]check if it was even possible for them to have done what you are accusing them of in the first place. [/I]it is the most basic courtesy you could [I]possibly [/I]afford. [/QUOTE]
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