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<blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9307895" data-attributes="member: 7043270"><p>I have looked through Orcus in depth. It is pretty much fully compatible with 4E there are some changes/differences:</p><p></p><p>- Some words of mechanis are changed to make sure to run not into copyright issues (just a name change not mechanic)</p><p></p><p>- Classes each have 2 "power lists" they can choose powers from to kind of remove "overlap" in the sense that you dont need 2 similar/same abilities in 2 different classes. (Like cleric and warlord who both have support/healing powers being Strength main with cha secondary). 4E had some attacks pretty much identical in different classes this is not the case here. HOWEVER, this makes classes a bit more complicated</p><p></p><p>- Character themes cost feats to use. So instead of taking free feats you can spend some of them to get a character theme. This handles the "character themes are additional power" concern and </p><p></p><p>- Overall its a bit less well balanced than 4E (ignoring the weak 4E classes), but 4E also had quite a bit of errata and one can of course remark that here a single person worked on it and not a big team. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Over all it is compatible with 4E and playable, with both a GM and a player book. So if people want more 4E material, they can use Orcus! </p><p></p><p></p><p>Also small question: What is your retroclone?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tigris, post: 9307895, member: 7043270"] I have looked through Orcus in depth. It is pretty much fully compatible with 4E there are some changes/differences: - Some words of mechanis are changed to make sure to run not into copyright issues (just a name change not mechanic) - Classes each have 2 "power lists" they can choose powers from to kind of remove "overlap" in the sense that you dont need 2 similar/same abilities in 2 different classes. (Like cleric and warlord who both have support/healing powers being Strength main with cha secondary). 4E had some attacks pretty much identical in different classes this is not the case here. HOWEVER, this makes classes a bit more complicated - Character themes cost feats to use. So instead of taking free feats you can spend some of them to get a character theme. This handles the "character themes are additional power" concern and - Overall its a bit less well balanced than 4E (ignoring the weak 4E classes), but 4E also had quite a bit of errata and one can of course remark that here a single person worked on it and not a big team. Over all it is compatible with 4E and playable, with both a GM and a player book. So if people want more 4E material, they can use Orcus! Also small question: What is your retroclone? [/QUOTE]
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