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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Don Durito" data-source="post: 7951381" data-attributes="member: 6687260">Like I said, I don't think it makes much sense.  For one, I think people don't really understand that in 4E and 13th Age it is not extra healing on top of magical healing.  They represent your capacity for healing, magical or otherwise.  What's more they become a resource that can be utilised (fatigued from pushing overland - lose a healing surge, fall off a bridge into icy cold water - lose a healing surge - struck by a life draining undead lose healing surge), so that you don't need to faff around with a whole layer of exhausting rules.  You can also use it at a daily resource, so if a player wants to pull off a particularly difficult stunt, and you want to both give it its due, but also have it cost something real - make them spend a healing surge.I think an argument can be made that they somewhat reduce the specialness of magical healing - if that's important to you, but when used correctly, they make the game more gritty, not less - it doesn't matter how many magical healing potions you dragged with from town.  When you're done, you're done.  And they become a way to unify the effects of damage, and fatigue and other conditions into a single trackable system that can be felt.But of course the 5E version really is just extra free healing with no cost or trade off.</blockquote>