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<blockquote data-quote="Mr. Kaze" data-source="post: 1723148" data-attributes="member: 8848"><p>Patryn's version is the most valid for people who (like me) demand valid explinations for how the world works -- like "How does SR know to resist a flaming sphere, but ignores Alchemist fire, but can't tell the difference between an acid flask and an acid arrow?" -- but it's also treading very close to quite rarified "blindsight."</p><p></p><p>If you've seen the original <em>Pitch Black</em>, you've got some lovely shots which are remarkably similar to Patryn's quasi-echolocation reasoning for darkvision. But they're also very definitely behaving in a manner of blindsight. (I'm surprised nobody compared that to the quite quite nasty illithid pic in the old DMG...)</p><p></p><p>But the other thing that's not being mentioned here being... How does a Ring of Darkhidden (<em>Magic of Faerun</em>) work if it only make you invisible if it's dark and somebody's trying to see you with darkvision? If a person with darkvision can't tell the difference between you and the darkness around you (but only when it's dark), then it would seem to me that "behaving in a manner of blindsight" is probably the more accurate reason because the ring isn't visually suppressing you.</p><p></p><p>But I'm more concerned about what they've done to SR and Spell Immunity in 3.5 (especially with Psionic powers like "Crystal Shard"), so I'm willing to let the "given what I learned about light in 7th grade, how is darkvision supposed to work?" thing slide. Heck, I have trouble keeping track of what the board looks like in any amount of darkness as is without saying that Darkvision doesn't work like normal vision but sans light.</p><p></p><p>::Kaze (had a Fomorian with a spiked chain. And some humans with a torch. Wasn't pretty when it was realized that the humans were in threatened squares by a creature they couldn't even see -- cuz they'd been killing the Fomorian as if they could see it. Sad for the Fomorian.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr. Kaze, post: 1723148, member: 8848"] Patryn's version is the most valid for people who (like me) demand valid explinations for how the world works -- like "How does SR know to resist a flaming sphere, but ignores Alchemist fire, but can't tell the difference between an acid flask and an acid arrow?" -- but it's also treading very close to quite rarified "blindsight." If you've seen the original [i]Pitch Black[/i], you've got some lovely shots which are remarkably similar to Patryn's quasi-echolocation reasoning for darkvision. But they're also very definitely behaving in a manner of blindsight. (I'm surprised nobody compared that to the quite quite nasty illithid pic in the old DMG...) But the other thing that's not being mentioned here being... How does a Ring of Darkhidden ([i]Magic of Faerun[/i]) work if it only make you invisible if it's dark and somebody's trying to see you with darkvision? If a person with darkvision can't tell the difference between you and the darkness around you (but only when it's dark), then it would seem to me that "behaving in a manner of blindsight" is probably the more accurate reason because the ring isn't visually suppressing you. But I'm more concerned about what they've done to SR and Spell Immunity in 3.5 (especially with Psionic powers like "Crystal Shard"), so I'm willing to let the "given what I learned about light in 7th grade, how is darkvision supposed to work?" thing slide. Heck, I have trouble keeping track of what the board looks like in any amount of darkness as is without saying that Darkvision doesn't work like normal vision but sans light. ::Kaze (had a Fomorian with a spiked chain. And some humans with a torch. Wasn't pretty when it was realized that the humans were in threatened squares by a creature they couldn't even see -- cuz they'd been killing the Fomorian as if they could see it. Sad for the Fomorian.) [/QUOTE]
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