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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 3632171" data-attributes="member: 4134">The biggest problem I see with exotic weapons is that they mixed up two sets of criteria there: Some are exotic (and require a feat even if you're a fighter) because they're stronger than a comparable martial weapon (e.g. an elven thinblade is like a rapier, but with d8 instead of d8), which is okay. But others are exotic weapons just because they're rare and, well, exotic. Even though they're weaker than other exotic weapons (often they're similar to simple weapons), they become exotic weapons because they're supposed to be less common.I like the idea about weapon knacks, or streamlining the system so that the weapon's "power level" determines its weapon category (they could rename the categories so that they're a better fit).Anyway, I did see my share of exotic weapons, sometimes as ornamentation, sometimes put to good use:Hand crossbow (mostly drow characters, who just have to have one of these)Spiked chain (a tactical fighter who disarmed and tripped the heck out of his enemies)Elven lightblade (I played a noble star elf, and we blatantly ripped of a samurai's daisho for the noble star elf caste, so my elf carried ornamental blades, one lightblade and one thinblade. The DM even gave me free proficiency with those, but that was probably mainly because the character was a sorcerer who didn't intend to use them, anyway)Elven thinblade (see above; also, we allowed bladesingers to use those as their blade, and one bladesinger character used it)Elven courtblade (my drow swordsage, we considered it the drow swordsages' katana and I was allowed to use shadowhand manoeuvres with that weapon. Also, one or two other characters used courtblades)Greathammer (my dwarven cleric. Wanted a big bad hammer that hit like hell)Dwarven waraxe (dwarven fighter who had weapon familiarity for it)Katana (a couple of rokugani characters who used it one-handed for some reason or other)Whip (a paladin of Sune I played in a play by post game that never really took off)Shuriken (a ninja character. They just got to have shuriken, or it wouldn't be the same)</blockquote>

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