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<blockquote data-quote="avigor" data-source="post: 3632354" data-attributes="member: 48877">I basically agree with Tetsubo, although I could see a monk order having a fighting style that's incompatible with western sickles but works with japanese sickles or vice versa; if nothing else, they might have different balance or handling characteristics. So, sometimes very similar, but slightly different, weapons might be different in specific circumstances, although most people wouldn't see any difference, and therefore proficiency in one should be proficiency in the other. A spiked chain would also be somewhat different than a dire flail: a solid shaft with two chains dangling off the ends compared to a single chain; you could probably use both if you're trained in one, but you might have familiarity issues if you switch.Thus, I'd say that weapons that you just aren't familiar with by culture, racial background, or simple lack of exposure should at least take a time period of familiarization (you have to practice with it for 3 hours a day for a week to gain the benefits of the appropriate feats with it). This way, weapon focus (rapier) would work with elven thinblades and vice versa. The two handed martial/one handed exotic would still require exotic training for one-handed use, although a western style bastard sword might handle differently than an eastern style bastard sword, as above. Racial weapons that are designed for different hands should definitely require the feat, because most people have humanoid hands and have to learn how to use weapons designed for different hands.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="avigor, post: 3632354, member: 48877"] I basically agree with Tetsubo, although I could see a monk order having a fighting style that's incompatible with western sickles but works with japanese sickles or vice versa; if nothing else, they might have different balance or handling characteristics. So, sometimes very similar, but slightly different, weapons might be different in specific circumstances, although most people wouldn't see any difference, and therefore proficiency in one should be proficiency in the other. A spiked chain would also be somewhat different than a dire flail: a solid shaft with two chains dangling off the ends compared to a single chain; you could probably use both if you're trained in one, but you might have familiarity issues if you switch. Thus, I'd say that weapons that you just aren't familiar with by culture, racial background, or simple lack of exposure should at least take a time period of familiarization (you have to practice with it for 3 hours a day for a week to gain the benefits of the appropriate feats with it). This way, weapon focus (rapier) would work with elven thinblades and vice versa. The two handed martial/one handed exotic would still require exotic training for one-handed use, although a western style bastard sword might handle differently than an eastern style bastard sword, as above. Racial weapons that are designed for different hands should definitely require the feat, because most people have humanoid hands and have to learn how to use weapons designed for different hands. [/QUOTE]

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