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<blockquote data-quote="Fenris-77" data-source="post: 7639669" data-attributes="member: 6993955"><p>One PC there is investing in DEX, another is investing in STR. What is the middle road character in your example investing his advances in if it's neither of those?</p><p></p><p>I'll just tell you, because there's only one answer- spellcasters, and not spellcasters for the most part who are even pretending to be melee capable. So Wizards and Sorcerers who've managed to upgrade to MA, and dudes like the Warlock and maybe some flavors of Bard, plus a bunch of non-melee Clerics. Those are not characters who have ever, in the history of the game, been top-drawer AC characters without magic items. I don't think they should be either. Nor do I support the assertion that all armor tiers should be capable of hitting the same AC. Full or half DEX mod allows a wide range of other abilities and bonuses that are already unavailable to the HA wearer, so I'm not fashed that the HA AC can be one better. I think light and medium armor users should count themselves lucky that the gap isn't wider than that.</p><p></p><p>The characters in question are pretty much universally full spellcasters, and those characters have a ton of other options and toys. Or....</p><p></p><p>You are going to use the counter example of a fighter who has moderate Dex and still wants to stealth (or pursue a career in rhythmic gymnastics). That is a legitimate example, but to that character I'd say that 1 AC isn't a huge price to pay to be able to walk on both sides of the track. Even then, a conscious decision would have to be made not to invest in DEX, and that's entering into <em>you get what you pay for</em> territory - fighters have the most ASIs for exactly this reason.</p><p></p><p>I guess that leaves us at a fundamental disagreement in principle. I'm OK with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fenris-77, post: 7639669, member: 6993955"] One PC there is investing in DEX, another is investing in STR. What is the middle road character in your example investing his advances in if it's neither of those? I'll just tell you, because there's only one answer- spellcasters, and not spellcasters for the most part who are even pretending to be melee capable. So Wizards and Sorcerers who've managed to upgrade to MA, and dudes like the Warlock and maybe some flavors of Bard, plus a bunch of non-melee Clerics. Those are not characters who have ever, in the history of the game, been top-drawer AC characters without magic items. I don't think they should be either. Nor do I support the assertion that all armor tiers should be capable of hitting the same AC. Full or half DEX mod allows a wide range of other abilities and bonuses that are already unavailable to the HA wearer, so I'm not fashed that the HA AC can be one better. I think light and medium armor users should count themselves lucky that the gap isn't wider than that. The characters in question are pretty much universally full spellcasters, and those characters have a ton of other options and toys. Or.... You are going to use the counter example of a fighter who has moderate Dex and still wants to stealth (or pursue a career in rhythmic gymnastics). That is a legitimate example, but to that character I'd say that 1 AC isn't a huge price to pay to be able to walk on both sides of the track. Even then, a conscious decision would have to be made not to invest in DEX, and that's entering into [I]you get what you pay for[/I] territory - fighters have the most ASIs for exactly this reason. I guess that leaves us at a fundamental disagreement in principle. I'm OK with that. [/QUOTE]
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