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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7639694" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Non-heavy armor users who want higher AC, higher Init, higher Dex saves, higher acrobatics check, higher stealth check, and the option to use a ranged weapon when the flying dragon is the foe?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even if you don't take the feat you have the <strong>SAME AC</strong> as the light armor guy, without having to devote <strong>any ASIs</strong> to get there while the light armor guy had to spend<strong> two ASIs</strong> to get there. So you an spend those two ASIs on feat for example, or your primary casting stat, or Constitution, etc..</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nononon. Not you're misrepresenting the critical facts. <strong>The light armor guy starts with two less AC.</strong> He <strong>HAS </strong>to spend those two ASIs on his Dex just to catch up to where the medium armor guy is at much earlier with zero ASIs. So all you're saying is if they were always going to spend ASIs on Dex that they will eventually have the same AC, but the medium armor guy will be at that higher AC for a much larger part of the game (minimum 8th level to get to the same AC the medium armor guy had as soon as he had 750 gold). My guess is the medium armor guy will be at that high AC by level 4 or so (and he will have had a higher AC than the light armor guy that whole time anyway, starting at level 1), while the light armor guy has to wait to a minimum of level 8.</p><p></p><p>If you're going to level 20, that 20% of your adventuring career that you had the lower AC than the medium guy. But worse, if you're playing a typical game which peeters out around levels 10-12, you're looking at 33% - 40% of your adventuring career with a lower AC for going light armor over medium armor. </p><p></p><p>Again, not seeing the problem with medium armor here. It's clearly a better choice than light armor, if your concern is AC.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because they were already at AC 17 earlier with half-plate, well before the Studded Leather wearer can get to that same AC using all their ASIs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7639694, member: 2525"] Non-heavy armor users who want higher AC, higher Init, higher Dex saves, higher acrobatics check, higher stealth check, and the option to use a ranged weapon when the flying dragon is the foe? Even if you don't take the feat you have the [B]SAME AC[/B] as the light armor guy, without having to devote [B]any ASIs[/B] to get there while the light armor guy had to spend[B] two ASIs[/B] to get there. So you an spend those two ASIs on feat for example, or your primary casting stat, or Constitution, etc.. Nononon. Not you're misrepresenting the critical facts. [B]The light armor guy starts with two less AC.[/B] He [B]HAS [/B]to spend those two ASIs on his Dex just to catch up to where the medium armor guy is at much earlier with zero ASIs. So all you're saying is if they were always going to spend ASIs on Dex that they will eventually have the same AC, but the medium armor guy will be at that higher AC for a much larger part of the game (minimum 8th level to get to the same AC the medium armor guy had as soon as he had 750 gold). My guess is the medium armor guy will be at that high AC by level 4 or so (and he will have had a higher AC than the light armor guy that whole time anyway, starting at level 1), while the light armor guy has to wait to a minimum of level 8. If you're going to level 20, that 20% of your adventuring career that you had the lower AC than the medium guy. But worse, if you're playing a typical game which peeters out around levels 10-12, you're looking at 33% - 40% of your adventuring career with a lower AC for going light armor over medium armor. Again, not seeing the problem with medium armor here. It's clearly a better choice than light armor, if your concern is AC. Because they were already at AC 17 earlier with half-plate, well before the Studded Leather wearer can get to that same AC using all their ASIs. [/QUOTE]
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