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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9874773" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>The Numenoreans were so exceptional, they lived for centuries. They were potent enough to fight side-by-side with the first, most powerful of the elves, against Sauron's Boss, Morgoth, in the war that banished Morgoth to the Void. For their efforts and suffering, the "angels" of Middle Earth raised the island from the sea for them, so they could live closer to what amounts to the Garden of Eden.</p><p></p><p>While Aragorn was many generations removed... he was 87 years old (and in the prime of his life at that age) when he met the Hobbits in Bree... he's not just "distantly related to some nobility". </p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, but while not as bad as some paint him, Tolkien wasn't all that egalitarian. In his writings, some men are just better than others.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, but Bilbo is the great, great grandson of Bandobras "the Bullroarer" Took, a hobbit so big he could ride a horse, and who personally averted a goblin invasion of the Shire at the Battle of Greenfields, by taking the head off the goblin leader Golfimul with a wooden club... and inventing the game of golf in the process. </p><p></p><p>In the text, Bilbo and Frodo's adventurous tendencies are repeatedly ascribed to their Tookishness, which connects them back to Bandobras (from who the FR gets "the halfling god "Brandobaris", btw).</p><p></p><p>Pippin is another Took. Merry is the first son of the Master of Buckland, of the line of the first Thane of the Shire.</p><p></p><p>Gimli a direct descendant of King Nain II, and thus a direct descendant of Durin the Deathless, first of the dwarves built by the angelic being Aule.</p><p></p><p>Legolas is, of course, son of Thranduil, King of the Elves of Mirkwood.</p><p></p><p>And, of course, Gandalf is an angelic being.</p><p></p><p>The <strong><em>only</em></strong> member of the Fellowship who has a job and works for a living is Sam Gamgee.</p><p></p><p>The fact that all these guys have such a story to them is because Tolkien thought this important. Folks get so tangled up in orcs that they often don't notice that Tolkien was laying down some significant bloodline-based classism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9874773, member: 177"] The Numenoreans were so exceptional, they lived for centuries. They were potent enough to fight side-by-side with the first, most powerful of the elves, against Sauron's Boss, Morgoth, in the war that banished Morgoth to the Void. For their efforts and suffering, the "angels" of Middle Earth raised the island from the sea for them, so they could live closer to what amounts to the Garden of Eden. While Aragorn was many generations removed... he was 87 years old (and in the prime of his life at that age) when he met the Hobbits in Bree... he's not just "distantly related to some nobility". I'm sorry, but while not as bad as some paint him, Tolkien wasn't all that egalitarian. In his writings, some men are just better than others. Ah, but Bilbo is the great, great grandson of Bandobras "the Bullroarer" Took, a hobbit so big he could ride a horse, and who personally averted a goblin invasion of the Shire at the Battle of Greenfields, by taking the head off the goblin leader Golfimul with a wooden club... and inventing the game of golf in the process. In the text, Bilbo and Frodo's adventurous tendencies are repeatedly ascribed to their Tookishness, which connects them back to Bandobras (from who the FR gets "the halfling god "Brandobaris", btw). Pippin is another Took. Merry is the first son of the Master of Buckland, of the line of the first Thane of the Shire. Gimli a direct descendant of King Nain II, and thus a direct descendant of Durin the Deathless, first of the dwarves built by the angelic being Aule. Legolas is, of course, son of Thranduil, King of the Elves of Mirkwood. And, of course, Gandalf is an angelic being. The [B][I]only[/I][/B] member of the Fellowship who has a job and works for a living is Sam Gamgee. The fact that all these guys have such a story to them is because Tolkien thought this important. Folks get so tangled up in orcs that they often don't notice that Tolkien was laying down some significant bloodline-based classism. [/QUOTE]
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