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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 9874887" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>Obviously. This is not any sort of a secret. And of course no one is denying that the King who returns, Aragorn Elessar, special even among the Dúnedain is not exceptional. Of course he is, he is an archetypal chosen one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, and when I read about the Hundred Years War, almost all of the principal actors are some sort of royals and aristocrats! Of course people in a world with medieval sensibilities that are invited into an important meeting about the fate of the world are likely to be some sort of aristocrats. This does not make them exceptional, this is perfectly normal. Most of the characters in Game of Thrones are aristocrats as well, but most of them are not really exceptional. Targaryens might be, the rest, nope. Same is true with Tolkien. Aragorn is of course special, as is the literal demigod on a mission, Gandalf. The rest are really not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course he was. Like no one hearing the talk of "lesser men" ruining Gondor cannot be oblivious to that. But you also overextend the claim beyond absurd. You were literally claiming that Sam is special because he -checks notes- "does not live in a city." And whilst Aragorn is the archetypical chosen one, this is already partly deconstructed in the book. His return is certainly depicted as unambiguously good thing, but this mighty chosen one with the ancient royal blood ultimately ends up acting as a distraction so that the hobbits can finish the job.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 9874887, member: 7025508"] Obviously. This is not any sort of a secret. And of course no one is denying that the King who returns, Aragorn Elessar, special even among the Dúnedain is not exceptional. Of course he is, he is an archetypal chosen one. Yes, and when I read about the Hundred Years War, almost all of the principal actors are some sort of royals and aristocrats! Of course people in a world with medieval sensibilities that are invited into an important meeting about the fate of the world are likely to be some sort of aristocrats. This does not make them exceptional, this is perfectly normal. Most of the characters in Game of Thrones are aristocrats as well, but most of them are not really exceptional. Targaryens might be, the rest, nope. Same is true with Tolkien. Aragorn is of course special, as is the literal demigod on a mission, Gandalf. The rest are really not. Of course he was. Like no one hearing the talk of "lesser men" ruining Gondor cannot be oblivious to that. But you also overextend the claim beyond absurd. You were literally claiming that Sam is special because he -checks notes- "does not live in a city." And whilst Aragorn is the archetypical chosen one, this is already partly deconstructed in the book. His return is certainly depicted as unambiguously good thing, but this mighty chosen one with the ancient royal blood ultimately ends up acting as a distraction so that the hobbits can finish the job. [/QUOTE]
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