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<blockquote data-quote="D'karr" data-source="post: 4445303" data-attributes="member: 336">You must have mistaken me for someone that has worries about minions.&nbsp; I do not.&nbsp; If the DM decides that a farmer can take out a high-level minion that is a plot device.&nbsp; If a DM is actually running a combat between NPCs that is a completely different issue and IMO falls under the heading of &quot;Not using the tools for what they were intended.&quot;&nbsp; The same way that a housecat killing an adult falls under the same heading.Personally I never need to determine the outcome of NPC vs. NPC violence by using anything but plot device.Should that farmer take out the devil for the sake of the plot?&nbsp; Yes, then he can.&nbsp; If not, he becomes devil-chow.&nbsp; I didn't need to know the HP of the devil or if it was a minion or a brute or anything else.&nbsp; Because in the long run I only need those rules artifacts to interact, in combat, against the PCs.I don't see any discrepancy with that when compared to what the rules provide.&nbsp; So in essence I have no worries.&nbsp; I use the tools for their intended purpose and don't have a problem with verisimilitude.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="D'karr, post: 4445303, member: 336"] You must have mistaken me for someone that has worries about minions. I do not. If the DM decides that a farmer can take out a high-level minion that is a plot device. If a DM is actually running a combat between NPCs that is a completely different issue and IMO falls under the heading of "Not using the tools for what they were intended." The same way that a housecat killing an adult falls under the same heading. Personally I never need to determine the outcome of NPC vs. NPC violence by using anything but plot device. Should that farmer take out the devil for the sake of the plot? Yes, then he can. If not, he becomes devil-chow. I didn't need to know the HP of the devil or if it was a minion or a brute or anything else. Because in the long run I only need those rules artifacts to interact, in combat, against the PCs. I don't see any discrepancy with that when compared to what the rules provide. So in essence I have no worries. I use the tools for their intended purpose and don't have a problem with verisimilitude. [/QUOTE]

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