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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4456532" data-attributes="member: 58197">Well spoken.I get really tired of hearing about the little kid who drops a legion devil by throwing a rock at it, or the minion who dies from crashing through brambles. Anything that inflicts hit point damage is by definition potentially lethal.&nbsp; If it isn't plausible for a given attack or effect to result in mortal injury, then that attack doesn't inflict hit point damage and can't kill minions.A thumb-poke to the eye cannot plausibly kill anything.&nbsp; If you're a PC who's just been through a hellacious battle (that is, you're down to 1 hit point), and somebody walks up and pokes you in the eye, will you fall down and start bleeding out?&nbsp; Of course not. Therefore, a poke in the eye does not inflict hit point damage. Therefore, minions do not die from it.(In 3.X, of course, this principle was roundly ignored.&nbsp; Housecats dealt lethal damage and were easily capable of killing the typical peasant.&nbsp; Aside from the super-magic-powered housecat that pops out of a bag of tricks, you won't find any of that garbage in 4E... and yet 4E is the one criticized for lack of verisimilitude.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 4456532, member: 58197"] Well spoken. I get really tired of hearing about the little kid who drops a legion devil by throwing a rock at it, or the minion who dies from crashing through brambles. [I]Anything that inflicts hit point damage is by definition potentially lethal.[/I] If it isn't plausible for a given attack or effect to result in mortal injury, then that attack doesn't inflict hit point damage and can't kill minions. A thumb-poke to the eye cannot plausibly kill anything. If you're a PC who's just been through a hellacious battle (that is, you're down to 1 hit point), and somebody walks up and pokes you in the eye, will you fall down and start bleeding out? Of course not. Therefore, a poke in the eye does not inflict hit point damage. Therefore, minions do not die from it. (In 3.X, of course, this principle was roundly ignored. Housecats dealt lethal damage and were easily capable of killing the typical peasant. Aside from the super-magic-powered housecat that pops out of a [I]bag of tricks[/I], you won't find any of that garbage in 4E... and yet 4E is the one criticized for lack of verisimilitude.) [/QUOTE]

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