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<blockquote data-quote="Akrasia" data-source="post: 1839430" data-attributes="member: 23012">Well, I don't want to get into an &quot;editions war&quot; here.&nbsp; And in fact, there are many things that I like and dislike about both 1E and 3E.&nbsp; But here some quick replies to your comments:Ugh.&nbsp; Level inflation means that levels are less valuable.&nbsp;&nbsp; :\ The idea that an 18 year old peasant boy can zip up to demi-god status in a few months is just ridiculous IMO.&nbsp; I hate the default level progression rate in 3E.&nbsp; But as you point out, the DM can just change the advancement rate in order to make level progression more sane and plausible.This is another one of my big pet-peeves with 3E: it takes HOURS to get one's &quot;notes ready&quot; ahead of time, especially for NPCs.&nbsp; The problem becomes exponentially worse the higher the level of the NPC in question.Just thinking about getting a statblock ready for a 15th level NPC makes me want to chew on broken glass.Sorry, but I just don't understand this at all.&nbsp;&nbsp; :\ More generally, I am not sure why you're trying to argue with me here.&nbsp; I'm glad that you and your group are having &quot;more fun&quot; with 3E.&nbsp; As for &quot;my fun&quot; (and I am a selfish person, after all), I've DM'ed almost every version of the game, including two 3E campaigns, and as a DM I just do not enjoy how slow and rules-heavy 3E is in practice.&nbsp; I have tried many &quot;tricks&quot; and &quot;short cuts&quot; in order to make 3E work for me -- but nothing has worked well enough to make me want to stick with it.&nbsp; I don't hate DM'ing 3E.&nbsp; I just find DM'ing other systems far more enjoyable.My DM memories of 1E are generally very positive: games were fast-paced, and prep time was minimal.&nbsp; In addition, I could focus on the aspects of DM'ing that I liked the most: campaign and plot design, the construction of interesting situations to challenge the PCs, rolling up random prostitutes and herbs with the 1E DMG, etc.&nbsp; Much of this is nostalgia, to be sure.&nbsp; I would not DM 1E again.&nbsp; But I have played a number of other systems in recent years and weeks -- Unisystem, Rules Cyclopedia D&amp;D, and Castles &amp; Crusades -- that suit my style far more than 3E.&nbsp; All these systems require far less tedious prep work (long statblocks, etc.) than 3E, and run much more quickly as well.&nbsp; In short, they are systems I actually have fun DM'ing.&nbsp; I am happy to play in another person's 3E campaign.&nbsp; But after I wrap up the current part of my home-brew 3E campaign, I will never use the system again.&nbsp; It just takes too much time to prep, and is too much work to actually run, for my tastes (and career health).&nbsp; I have enough stress at work -- I don't need it as a DM as well.&nbsp;<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Anyway, this is all irrelevant with respect to subject of this thread: the virtues of the 1E DMG.The 1E AD&amp;D DMG was great.&nbsp; Period.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Akrasia, post: 1839430, member: 23012"] Well, I don't want to get into an "editions war" here. And in fact, there are many things that I like and dislike about [I]both [/I] 1E and 3E. But here some quick replies to your comments: Ugh. Level inflation means that levels are less valuable. :\ The idea that an 18 year old peasant boy can zip up to demi-god status in a few months is just ridiculous IMO. I hate the default level progression rate in 3E. But as you point out, the DM can just change the advancement rate in order to make level progression more sane and plausible. This is another one of my big pet-peeves with 3E: it takes HOURS to get one's "notes ready" ahead of time, especially for NPCs. The problem becomes exponentially worse the higher the level of the NPC in question. Just thinking about getting a statblock ready for a 15th level NPC makes me want to chew on broken glass. Sorry, but I just don't understand this at all. :\ More generally, I am not sure why you're trying to argue with me here. I'm glad that you and your group are having "more fun" with 3E. As for "my fun" (and I am a selfish person, after all), I've DM'ed almost every version of the game, including two 3E campaigns, and as a DM I just do not enjoy how slow and rules-heavy 3E is in practice. I have tried many "tricks" and "short cuts" in order to make 3E work for me -- but nothing has worked well enough to make me want to stick with it. I don't hate DM'ing 3E. I just find DM'ing other systems far more enjoyable. My DM memories of 1E are generally very positive: games were fast-paced, and prep time was minimal. In addition, I could focus on the aspects of DM'ing that I liked the most: campaign and plot design, the construction of interesting situations to challenge the PCs, rolling up random prostitutes and herbs with the 1E DMG, etc. Much of this is nostalgia, to be sure. I would not DM 1E again. But I have played a number of other systems in recent years and weeks -- Unisystem, Rules Cyclopedia D&D, and Castles & Crusades -- that suit my style far more than 3E. All these systems require far less tedious prep work (long statblocks, etc.) than 3E, and run much more quickly as well. In short, they are systems I actually have fun DM'ing. I am [I]happy[/I] to play in another person's 3E campaign. But after I wrap up the current part of my home-brew 3E campaign, I will never use the system again. It just takes too much time to prep, and is too much work to actually run, for my tastes (and career health). I have enough stress at work -- I don't need it as a DM as well. ;) Anyway, this is all [B]irrelevant[/B] with respect to subject of this thread: the virtues of the 1E DMG. The 1E AD&D DMG was great. Period. :) [/QUOTE]

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