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<blockquote data-quote="Kramodlog" data-source="post: 6200443" data-attributes="member: 55961">Some of the thief's ability seem to come from Fritz Lieber's the Grey Mouser. Like dabling in magic with a change of failure. The demi-lich's, gem incrusted flying skulls, also seem to come from Lieber. Jack Vance (anagram of Vecna), also influence a lot the magic of D&amp;D. Hence the infamous vancian system. Can't say the books are good though. At least some of Lieber's stories were readable. Same with Howard's Conan, the quality really varies from story to story. I think in the first bestiary Gagyx used Cthulhu and other Lovecraftian monsters without permission. He did the same with Elric and hobbits.Updated list? China Miéville's Perdido Street Station is a must. So is The Scar. Dune needs to be in it, even if it is sci-fi, the setting is feudal, religion playsa big part of it, technology is replaced by psionics andlife-shaping (sort of of), political intrigue, the spice and the powers it gives can be easily be considered magical. Philip Pullmna's His Dark Materials trilogy is pretty awesome. Multiverse, magic, playing with souls, angels, world shaking plot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kramodlog, post: 6200443, member: 55961"] Some of the thief's ability seem to come from Fritz Lieber's the Grey Mouser. Like dabling in magic with a change of failure. The demi-lich's, gem incrusted flying skulls, also seem to come from Lieber. Jack Vance (anagram of Vecna), also influence a lot the magic of D&D. Hence the infamous vancian system. Can't say the books are good though. At least some of Lieber's stories were readable. Same with Howard's Conan, the quality really varies from story to story. I think in the first bestiary Gagyx used Cthulhu and other Lovecraftian monsters without permission. He did the same with Elric and hobbits. Updated list? China Miéville's [I]Perdido Street Station[/I] is a must. So is [I]The Scar[/I]. [I] Dune[/I] needs to be in it, even if it is sci-fi, the setting is feudal, religion playsa big part of it, technology is replaced by psionics andlife-shaping (sort of of), political intrigue, the spice and the powers it gives can be easily be considered magical. Philip Pullmna's[I] His Dark Materials[/I] trilogy is pretty awesome. Multiverse, magic, playing with souls, angels, world shaking plot. [/QUOTE]

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