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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahrimon" data-source="post: 6505186" data-attributes="member: 12630">I agree, removing ability score modifiers from race would be my preferred game.  I don't know if I would give it to the class though.  You just end up with another style of "this is the way you should play" with several classes.  Give a fighter a str bonus and the dex fighter crowd will be upset.  Give a ranger a dex bonus and the melee ranger players will be annoyed.  Do clerics get a wisdom bonus?  What about the battle clerics that want to have a higher str?  Granted this doesn't affect the pure spellcasting classes as much, but it could.Why not just go with no bonuses to attributes?  I'd probably change the point buy and the default array a bit so that folks could start with a 16 rather than 15 being the max.  It's slightly lower power curve than regular 5e, but not by much.  And there's no worry about X character concept being weaker than Y character concept just because someone wanted to be race A and not race B.</blockquote>