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<blockquote data-quote="thewok" data-source="post: 5690739" data-attributes="member: 60907">I don't really think it's a question of the target.&nbsp; The flavor text is immaterial.&nbsp; The actual Target line says &quot;One Creature.&quot;&nbsp; That's not the debate.The question is &quot;Can a target willingly get hit by a hostile power?&quot;&nbsp; By RAW, I'd say no.That said, let's look past RAW.&nbsp; This is certainly a very useful power, and it does have some very good utility when used on friendly targets.&nbsp; Looking at it, though, I believe that this power is pretty powerful when used on friendlies/&nbsp; Say you have a cleric with a +4 charisma modifier.&nbsp; Right off, that's a seven-square slide.&nbsp; Since forced movement does not provoke OAs, you effectively have given someone a seven-square shift.&nbsp; Also, since forced movement is not affected by difficult terrain, you now have a seven-square shift that few things can really follow, making the daze a mere annoyance.Now imagine a multiclassed sorcerer.&nbsp; That seven-square shift is now 11-12 squares at level 28.&nbsp; Even with the daze, that's a hell of an &quot;Oh, s---!&quot; power.Then there's the cleric who might want to use this power on himself.&nbsp; He is a creature, after all, and a range of 0 is within the range of the spell.As I said above, I'd say they need to hit the full defense in order to use the power.Alternatively, I'd allow them to lower their defense as a free action--not against just the one attack, but until the end of their next turn.&nbsp; This isn't really a problem against stuff like kobolds and orcs, but against mind flayers and the like this can prove to be a very dangerous option, which might introduce some very interesting things to a game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thewok, post: 5690739, member: 60907"] I don't really think it's a question of the target. The flavor text is immaterial. The actual Target line says "One Creature." That's not the debate. The question is "Can a target willingly get hit by a hostile power?" By RAW, I'd say no. That said, let's look past RAW. This is certainly a very useful power, and it does have some very good utility when used on friendly targets. Looking at it, though, I believe that this power is pretty powerful when used on friendlies/ Say you have a cleric with a +4 charisma modifier. Right off, that's a seven-square slide. Since forced movement does not provoke OAs, you effectively have given someone a seven-square shift. Also, since forced movement is not affected by difficult terrain, you now have a seven-square shift that few things can really follow, making the daze a mere annoyance. Now imagine a multiclassed sorcerer. That seven-square shift is now 11-12 squares at level 28. Even with the daze, that's a hell of an "Oh, s---!" power. Then there's the cleric who might want to use this power on himself. He is a creature, after all, and a range of 0 is within the range of the spell. As I said above, I'd say they need to hit the full defense in order to use the power. Alternatively, I'd allow them to lower their defense as a free action--not against just the one attack, but until the end of their next turn. This isn't really a problem against stuff like kobolds and orcs, but against mind flayers and the like this can prove to be a very dangerous option, which might introduce some very interesting things to a game. [/QUOTE]

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