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<blockquote data-quote="thewok" data-source="post: 5691338" data-attributes="member: 60907"><p>Rules As Written, yes. And, as written, the rules make no allowance for <em>allowing</em> a hostile power to hit you, no matter the source.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It depends on what you believe I'm saying should be disallowed. Using the power on an ally is totally allowed. Willingly being hit by an attack power has no rules basis at all. According to the rules, the <em>only</em> way to hit with an attack is to make an attack roll and meet or exceed the defense. There is no other way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am having trouble finding this rule in the D20 SRD. Can you point it out for me? Also, if my talking about a cleric hitting himself with the power is a "strawman argument," then so is this. The discussion is about Fourth Edition--not any previous edition of the game.</p><p></p><p>In any case, my idea for lowering defenses willingly until end of your next turn comes from considering how that would have to come about. On an attack targeting AC or Reflex, the target would have to stop moving enough to allow an attack to hit. By doing that, he's not fully defending against any other attacks because he has to make sure the attack in question hits him. An attack against Will would mean that the person lowers defenses in his mind so the attack can go through, and anyone could take advantage of that. Fortitude cannot really be willingly reduced, as it is purely a function of someone's natural hardiness.</p><p></p><p>Even so, I firmly believe that no one should ever <em>want</em> to be hit with anything labeled an attack, no matter the source. It just doesn't make sense, despite whatever possible benefit might be gained.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thewok, post: 5691338, member: 60907"] Rules As Written, yes. And, as written, the rules make no allowance for [I]allowing[/I] a hostile power to hit you, no matter the source. It depends on what you believe I'm saying should be disallowed. Using the power on an ally is totally allowed. Willingly being hit by an attack power has no rules basis at all. According to the rules, the [I]only[/I] way to hit with an attack is to make an attack roll and meet or exceed the defense. There is no other way. I am having trouble finding this rule in the D20 SRD. Can you point it out for me? Also, if my talking about a cleric hitting himself with the power is a "strawman argument," then so is this. The discussion is about Fourth Edition--not any previous edition of the game. In any case, my idea for lowering defenses willingly until end of your next turn comes from considering how that would have to come about. On an attack targeting AC or Reflex, the target would have to stop moving enough to allow an attack to hit. By doing that, he's not fully defending against any other attacks because he has to make sure the attack in question hits him. An attack against Will would mean that the person lowers defenses in his mind so the attack can go through, and anyone could take advantage of that. Fortitude cannot really be willingly reduced, as it is purely a function of someone's natural hardiness. Even so, I firmly believe that no one should ever [I]want[/I] to be hit with anything labeled an attack, no matter the source. It just doesn't make sense, despite whatever possible benefit might be gained. [/QUOTE]
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