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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7877119" data-attributes="member: 996">4e, of course, went to 30, and stayed mathematically functional and reasonably balanced (at least pre-E) throughout.&nbsp; I mean, yeah, that was a deviation from tradition, but not /away/ from presenting high level play, just towards daring to try to make it work. In the early TSR era and the fad years, yes, class designs were all over the place.&nbsp; But, for instance, even the 1e fighter got a little something after 9th level, even if the main table just had an uninspiring '3hps' at each subsequent level, his attack matrix and saving throw matrix kept going to 16th, and at 13th(? or so) he got that coveted 2nd attack/round.&nbsp; And casters continued to get new spell levels and quite a few additional spells per day after 'name' level.2e presented every class advancement table to level 20 (and not beyond, unlike 1e, where some capped lower, and a few tables when higher, and unlimited advancement was implied as a possibility).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7877119, member: 996"] 4e, of course, went to 30, and stayed mathematically functional and reasonably balanced (at least pre-E) throughout. I mean, yeah, that was a deviation from tradition, but not /away/ from presenting high level play, just towards daring to try to make it work. In the early TSR era and the fad years, yes, class designs were all over the place. But, for instance, even the 1e fighter got a little something after 9th level, even if the main table just had an uninspiring '3hps' at each subsequent level, his attack matrix and saving throw matrix kept going to 16th, and at 13th(? or so) he got that coveted 2nd attack/round. And casters continued to get new spell levels and quite a few additional spells per day after 'name' level. 2e presented every class advancement table to level 20 (and not beyond, unlike 1e, where some capped lower, and a few tables when higher, and unlimited advancement was implied as a possibility). [/QUOTE]

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