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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8713098" data-attributes="member: 71699">There are a few ways progress can occur<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Increase in absolute likelihood of overcoming game obstacles (e.g. bigger numbers)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Decrease in absolute likelihood of losing (e.g. more HP)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Increase in number of ways to interact with the game world (e.g. new abilities that may be more complex)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Change in the set of obstacles that can be successfully interacted with (e.g. &quot;higher level&quot; obstacles that have bigger numbers, and may be more complex)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Change in regions of the game world that can be accessed (e.g. ability to fly or plane-shift, giving access to new obstacles, that may be more complex)</li>
</ul>Progress on the first two alone is the antithesis of mastery. Obstacles become easier to overcome, requiring less player skill. Progress on the second increases the game's demand for mastery. Interaction starts simple and become more difficult with progression.Can only be answered by knowing the details. Is that growth permitting access to a new set of obstacles, that too have bigger numbers? What is happening to breadth and complexity of options for interaction? Greater mastery may be demanded because of character progression.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8713098, member: 71699"] There are a few ways progress can occur [LIST] [*]Increase in absolute likelihood of overcoming game obstacles (e.g. bigger numbers) [*]Decrease in absolute likelihood of losing (e.g. more HP) [*]Increase in number of ways to interact with the game world (e.g. new abilities that may be more complex) [*]Change in the set of obstacles that can be successfully interacted with (e.g. "higher level" obstacles that have bigger numbers, and may be more complex) [*]Change in regions of the game world that can be accessed (e.g. ability to fly or plane-shift, giving access to new obstacles, that may be more complex) [/LIST] Progress on the first two alone is the antithesis of mastery. Obstacles become easier to overcome, requiring less player skill. Progress on the second [I]increases[/I] the game's demand for mastery. Interaction starts simple and become [I]more difficult[/I] with progression. Can only be answered by knowing the details. Is that growth permitting access to a new set of obstacles, that too have bigger numbers? What is happening to breadth and complexity of options for interaction? Greater mastery may be demanded [I]because of [/I]character progression. [/QUOTE]

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