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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4586423" data-attributes="member: 35909">With only elite array for stats, it is important to take classes that use similar ability scores if possible.&nbsp; It's been so long that I've been in a game withthe highest starting stat being 15 that I'm not sure if picking a primary casting class is that useful...at least unless you can get +2 to the stat from race (like a grey elf wizard).If you don't want any casting at all, you should at least get full BAB, d8 or higher HD, 6 or 8+ int skill points, two or three good saves, and some nice class features out of the combination, if you want some standard to judge by.Based on your allowed books, I assume this is a 3.0 game (as in, not the revised 3.5 edition)?If not, I'd say Warlock is a very useful &quot;other class&quot; for a gestalt character, that gives a lot of passive abilities (so you can use your combat actions on the first class's abilities), adds a lot of versatility (reliable ranged attack, constant/endlessly renewable benefits like flight and invisibility), and doesn't really require...any high stats.&nbsp; (dex, cha, and con being the most important).&nbsp; It is found in Complete Arcane and would combine well with any full BAB class for someone who wishes to not cast any spells.&nbsp; You get spell-like abilities, but only about a dozen by level 20, and they're most often 24 hour buff effects, so it's not a hard class to progress or plan for.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4586423, member: 35909"] With only elite array for stats, it is important to take classes that use similar ability scores if possible. It's been so long that I've been in a game withthe highest starting stat being 15 that I'm not sure if picking a primary casting class is that useful...at least unless you can get +2 to the stat from race (like a grey elf wizard). If you don't want any casting at all, you should at least get full BAB, d8 or higher HD, 6 or 8+ int skill points, two or three good saves, and some nice class features out of the combination, if you want some standard to judge by. Based on your allowed books, I assume this is a 3.0 game (as in, not the revised 3.5 edition)? If not, I'd say Warlock is a very useful "other class" for a gestalt character, that gives a lot of passive abilities (so you can use your combat actions on the first class's abilities), adds a lot of versatility (reliable ranged attack, constant/endlessly renewable benefits like flight and invisibility), and doesn't really require...any high stats. (dex, cha, and con being the most important). It is found in Complete Arcane and would combine well with any full BAB class for someone who wishes to not cast any spells. You get spell-like abilities, but only about a dozen by level 20, and they're most often 24 hour buff effects, so it's not a hard class to progress or plan for. [/QUOTE]

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