Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Level 12, All books are fair game. Now, what should I be? [Updated, still need help!]
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Magesmiley" data-source="post: 3259988" data-attributes="member: 26292"><p>Well... if you take 12 levels of fighter, you still get 7 fighter feats to play with. I realize that you're after some divine levels as well though, so maybe 8 levels of fighter (5 fighter feats) and 4 other levels (cleric or something else) might work.</p><p></p><p>I've done a few variations on this build here and there (as has one of the players in the game I DM for). Veering into Dwarven Defender can work with it as well (you'll have to use one of the roll with it feats for endurance and one of the fighter feats for dodge, but you'll pick updefensive stance, uncanny dodge, and an AC bonus, plus 3/- more DR when you go up a level). In general though, my observation is that straight fighter (possibly with the dwarven fighter racial substitution levels from RoS) works the best for this concept.</p><p></p><p>Trust me - its worth it. Spend your gold mostly on AC boosting items (and possibly a CON booster). You become the uber meat shield that can take an incredible pounding and keep on walking. The DR will typically take 50% or more off the amount of damage you're getting hit with from attacks, effectively doubling your already high HP. I've got a 6th level version of this character in the game I'm DMing right now (started at 1st level) and only once has the character even gotten down to under 1/4 of his starting HP.</p><p></p><p>I'll throw out a sample of what I'm talking about... take the melee attacks of an old black dragon (CR 16). Assuming it hits every time it will, on average, do 77 HP of damage to most characters in melee (bite 18, claws 11, wings 8.5, tail 20). A character with 12/- DR will take 14 HP of damage from the same fight. The dragon's breath weapon will do on average 27 HP of damage - the high HP of the character can suck this up too. A dragon might be a bit extreme of an example, however you can see the effect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magesmiley, post: 3259988, member: 26292"] Well... if you take 12 levels of fighter, you still get 7 fighter feats to play with. I realize that you're after some divine levels as well though, so maybe 8 levels of fighter (5 fighter feats) and 4 other levels (cleric or something else) might work. I've done a few variations on this build here and there (as has one of the players in the game I DM for). Veering into Dwarven Defender can work with it as well (you'll have to use one of the roll with it feats for endurance and one of the fighter feats for dodge, but you'll pick updefensive stance, uncanny dodge, and an AC bonus, plus 3/- more DR when you go up a level). In general though, my observation is that straight fighter (possibly with the dwarven fighter racial substitution levels from RoS) works the best for this concept. Trust me - its worth it. Spend your gold mostly on AC boosting items (and possibly a CON booster). You become the uber meat shield that can take an incredible pounding and keep on walking. The DR will typically take 50% or more off the amount of damage you're getting hit with from attacks, effectively doubling your already high HP. I've got a 6th level version of this character in the game I'm DMing right now (started at 1st level) and only once has the character even gotten down to under 1/4 of his starting HP. I'll throw out a sample of what I'm talking about... take the melee attacks of an old black dragon (CR 16). Assuming it hits every time it will, on average, do 77 HP of damage to most characters in melee (bite 18, claws 11, wings 8.5, tail 20). A character with 12/- DR will take 14 HP of damage from the same fight. The dragon's breath weapon will do on average 27 HP of damage - the high HP of the character can suck this up too. A dragon might be a bit extreme of an example, however you can see the effect. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Level 12, All books are fair game. Now, what should I be? [Updated, still need help!]
Top