level adjustment buy off

[Shane Ekstrand]

i was wondering if anyone knew if you can buy off level adjustment early for gold in addition to xp because i want to play a level adjustment 9 and i would never be able to buy it off otherwise or any suggestions on how to get them off fairly

 

[Ranes]

To my knowledge, you can't buy off LA or ECL with coin. And if you could, you'd have to let PCs buy new levels the same way. Now, if your group wants to go there, more power to you.

 

[Halivar]

Level Adjust isn't a penalty; it's a tool to make sure that your PC is facing enemies appropriate for your power level. Even if you could buy it off, you'd be disrupting the power balance of the game and diminishing it for you, the DM, and your fellow players. LA is there to help you, not hold you back.

 

[Ranes]

Level Adjust isn't a penalty; it's a tool to make sure that your PC is facing enemies appropriate for your power level. Even if you could buy it off, you'd be disrupting the power balance of the game and diminishing it for you, the DM, and your fellow players. LA is there to help you, not hold you back.

Very true.

 

[Oryan77]

Level Adjust isn't a penalty; it's a tool to make sure that your PC is facing enemies appropriate for your power level. Even if you could buy it off, you'd be disrupting the power balance of the game and diminishing it for you, the DM, and your fellow players. LA is there to help you, not hold you back.

I like how you mention LA not being a penalty. Players seem to overlook that when avoiding races with an LA. Although, there are rules in Unearthed Arcana that allow you to buy off your LA with XP. There is nothing that I am aware of that gives rules on using gold to buy off LA. I don't even see how that would make any sense unless you were to pay a skilled Imp to remove some of your racial traits via surgery and magic. Get rid of your beneficial racial traits and then you won't receive the LA any longer.

The reason for spending XP to "buy off" your LA after level 3 via the rules in Unearthed Arcana is because a lot of the racial traits given become less beneficial during higher levels. It's too the point were those nice racial perks you got at 1st level are overshadowed in comparison to what the LA 0 race gets due to his extra class level when you reach mid levels. So they are behind a level during the first 3 levels, which seems fair. Then they finally earn that class level and are on par with the other PCs.

I actually use XP buy off in my game and it has enticed more players to play LA +1 races (when nobody would before) and I do not notice any creep in their power level even at level 5. It seems perfectly balanced.

 

[Ranes]

I like how you mention LA not being a penalty. Players seem to overlook that when avoiding races with an LA. Although, there are rules in Unearthed Arcana that allow you to buy off your LA with XP. There is nothing that I am aware of that gives rules on using gold to buy off LA. I don't even see how that would make any sense unless you were to pay a skilled Imp to remove some of your racial traits via surgery and magic. Get rid of your beneficial racial traits and then you won't receive the LA any longer.

The reason for spending XP to "buy off" your LA after level 3 via the rules in Unearthed Arcana is because a lot of the racial traits given become less beneficial during higher levels. It's too the point were those nice racial perks you got at 1st level are overshadowed in comparison to what the LA 0 race gets due to his extra class level when you reach mid levels. So they are behind a level during the first 3 levels, which seems fair. Then they finally earn that class level and are on par with the other PCs.

I actually use XP buy off in my game and it has enticed more players to play LA +1 races (when nobody would before) and I do not notice any creep in their power level even at level 5. It seems perfectly balanced.

Ah, Unearthed Arcana! Dang, after reading the OP, I pored over Savage Species. I knew I'd read the XP buy-off rules somewhere but couldn't remember where. Thanks for steering me in the right direction.

Yeah, UA's XP buy-off seems reasonable. But the gold thing is a bit wonko (no offence, OP). As I said above, if you're going there, you might as well let players pay for new PC levels with gold! Hang on. I read those rules, somewhere, back in the seventies...

 

[Remathilis]

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/reducingLevelAdjustments.htm

The UA rules.