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<blockquote data-quote="Leopold" data-source="post: 1145950" data-attributes="member: 758">If this is the case then we really need to change the description of it's ability then as it doesn't get this in the main description and this makes a big difference as you say in the LA.Yes but it is only a 10% chance that it is that eye, concidering that a young beholder has ten eye stalks, and if I was playing a Elder Orb, I would get rid of practically anything else before I would lose disintegrate. So it should still factore in at a +2 or +3 at least.but it loses 30% of the eyes correct? It has a choice or is it random? How can this be decided, if it's random I say leave the LA at +1, if it's static then +2.&nbsp; No but it is still quite a bit above when you compare it to the average stats of say a 30th level character, not factoring in wishes and items, which an Elder Orb PC would have access to as well.I would still give it a +1 comparitively speaking to a 30th level wizard with headband of intellect, books, rods, items, etc. If the armor was made from the proper materials it would not matter, and besides, it is quite easy to retool bracers of armor into an item an elder orb could use.this is true, but is this armor standard? it can wear amulets, headbands, and cloaks? would be expensive but it can be boosted and used. but is this standard equipment or is this from another book?Yes, but a 30th level wiz would be deader than a doornail.if it had antimagic eye up the wizard is toast, no questions asked.How bout we settle on a +11 then?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Leopold, post: 1145950, member: 758"] If this is the case then we really need to change the description of it's ability then as it doesn't get this in the main description and this makes a big difference as you say in the LA. [color=aqua]Yes but it is only a 10% chance that it is that eye, concidering that a young beholder has ten eye stalks, and if I was playing a Elder Orb, I would get rid of practically anything else before I would lose disintegrate. So it should still factore in at a +2 or +3 at least.[/color] but it loses 30% of the eyes correct? It has a choice or is it random? How can this be decided, if it's random I say leave the LA at +1, if it's static then +2. [color=aqua] No but it is still quite a bit above when you compare it to the average stats of say a 30th level character, not factoring in wishes and items, which an Elder Orb PC would have access to as well.[/color] I would still give it a +1 comparitively speaking to a 30th level wizard with headband of intellect, books, rods, items, etc. [color=aqua]If the armor was made from the proper materials it would not matter, and besides, it is quite easy to retool bracers of armor into an item an elder orb could use.[/color] this is true, but is this armor standard? it can wear amulets, headbands, and cloaks? would be expensive but it can be boosted and used. but is this standard equipment or is this from another book? [color=aqua]Yes, but a 30th level wiz would be deader than a doornail.[/color] if it had antimagic eye up the wizard is toast, no questions asked. How bout we settle on a +11 then? [/QUOTE]

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