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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5470694" data-attributes="member: 1210">I think the problem with your analysis comes down to, &quot;The people I know play this way, ergo everyone else does too.&quot;This is absolutely, blatantly, explicitly not true.Your assumptions about sandboxing are waaaay off from the experiences I have had for, oh, 30+ years of sandboxing. That doesn't mean that you're always wrong; it just means that you're not always right. I can recall, at 1st level in 1e, having to take on a frickin' iron golem. I can recall a ton of times, at 1st level in EVERY edition, where the pcs had to deal with an ogre. I can recall SURPRISE!! encounters with monsters that vastly outpower the pcs in every edition I have run, from BECMI on to 4e. Clearly, you haven't had the same experiences as I, but surely you can see that you haven't had the only experience with gaming and that, if someone has a decades-long campaign with eager players and a constant waiting list of people that want in,&nbsp; they must be doing something right... even if different from what you're used to or expect.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 5470694, member: 1210"] I think the problem with your analysis comes down to, "The people I know play this way, ergo everyone else does too." This is absolutely, blatantly, explicitly not true. Your assumptions about sandboxing are waaaay off from the experiences I have had for, oh, 30+ years of sandboxing. That doesn't mean that you're always wrong; it just means that you're not always right. I can recall, at 1st level in 1e, having to take on a frickin' [b]iron golem[/b]. I can recall a ton of times, at 1st level in EVERY edition, where the pcs had to deal with an ogre. I can recall SURPRISE!! encounters with monsters that vastly outpower the pcs in [i]every edition[/i] I have run, from BECMI on to 4e. Clearly, you haven't had the same experiences as I, but surely you can see that you haven't had the [i]only[/i] experience with gaming and that, if someone has a decades-long campaign with eager players and a constant waiting list of people that want in, they must be doing something right... even if different from what you're used to or expect. [/QUOTE]

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