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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 5133867" data-attributes="member: 1139">This solution is pretty much incompatible with character builder, which is extremely useful for groups that use it.&nbsp; Though I like the idea, it also has a lot of ripple effects given the design of 4e.&nbsp; Something to consider in 5e!My Suggested Math Fix: At levels 5, 15, and 25, characters get +1 to hit and to Fort/Reflex/Will defenses.This is a math fix for well known scaling issues; characters lose 4 to hit, 4 to their two strong FRW defenses (assuming they spread stat-points to two different ability scores), 7 to their weak FRW defense, and 2 to AC over 29 levels.&nbsp; With this change, characters lose 1 to-hit and 2 to their average FRW defense over these levels.&nbsp; Ban the following feats:Heroic: Focused Expertise, Implement Expertise, Weapon Expertise,Epic:&nbsp; Robust Defenses, Epic Fortitude, Epic Reflexes, and Epic Will.These benefits are accounted for by the “math fix.”&nbsp; The Expertise feats in particular seem like poor attempts to fix the math problems that would have been much better handled by a rules update.&nbsp; In the character builder, implement this change by giving yourself the appropriate Expertise feats for free, and then worry about powers not covered by the feats separately—e.g., a Dragonborn’s Breath.&nbsp; If you don’t have any feat bonuses to FRW, you can implement the FRW change by adding Paragon defenses as a free feat at level 5, or Robust Defenses as a free feat at level 15.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elric, post: 5133867, member: 1139"] This solution is pretty much incompatible with character builder, which is extremely useful for groups that use it. Though I like the idea, it also has a lot of ripple effects given the design of 4e. Something to consider in 5e! [B]My Suggested Math Fix: [/B]At levels 5, 15, and 25, characters get +1 to hit and to Fort/Reflex/Will defenses. This is a math fix for well known scaling issues; characters lose 4 to hit, 4 to their two strong FRW defenses (assuming they spread stat-points to two different ability scores), 7 to their weak FRW defense, and 2 to AC over 29 levels. With this change, characters lose 1 to-hit and 2 to their average FRW defense over these levels. Ban the following feats: Heroic: Focused Expertise, Implement Expertise, Weapon Expertise, Epic: Robust Defenses, Epic Fortitude, Epic Reflexes, and Epic Will. These benefits are accounted for by the “math fix.” The Expertise feats in particular seem like poor attempts to fix the math problems that would have been much better handled by a rules update. In the character builder, implement this change by giving yourself the appropriate Expertise feats for free, and then worry about powers not covered by the feats separately—e.g., a Dragonborn’s Breath. If you don’t have any feat bonuses to FRW, you can implement the FRW change by adding Paragon defenses as a free feat at level 5, or Robust Defenses as a free feat at level 15. [/QUOTE]

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