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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 2669184" data-attributes="member: 177">I'll go out on a limb to say that such ranking is a social system.  It is not directly reflected in the mechanic.  What skills they'd each have depend upon the social system that grants the ranks.But, if we want to link to the mechanics, I think of it this way - as I understand it, originally a "masterwork" was the work a journeyman completed to gain/prove his rank as a master.  In game, to create a Masterwork item requires a 20 on the skill check.So, when the character can automatically produce a Masterwork, he or she is a Master.  A character with a total skill modifier of +10 can Take 10 and automatically produce the masterwork with no chance of failure.  This is a master craftsman.  Another way to view it:As I understand it, traditionally the distinction between Apprentice and Journeyman isn't one of skill at all.  Apprenticeship was a contractual thing - you're an apprentice so long as you're under contract with your Master.  When you fulfill your contract, you're a Journeyman.  In theory, by this time you've learned enough to do useful, moneymaking work.  When you're good enough to hold your own and have your own shop, then you're a Master, in a position to have apprentices of your own.  Linking things together - We might guess that, in a D&D world, perhaps when a character has that +10 skill modifier he's good enough to support his own shop...</blockquote>