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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8177701" data-attributes="member: 83242">ok, thank you for sharing.&nbsp; I've had a quick look and in generally I like it, but there are two issues IMO:1. Commanding Presence Starting at 1st level, you have a Commanding Presence which extends from you in a 10-foot radius. Your allies can attack at your command. When you take the Attack action, you can forgo making one attack to allow a friendly creature within range of your Commanding Presence to make an attack instead.IMO, this is biggest issue and why it doesn't seem like a 4e &quot;warlord&quot; to me.&nbsp; The 4e version could pretty much always doing something and provide support / inspiration.&nbsp; You were never giving anything up to do cool things.&nbsp; The cool things were on top of your attack / action.&nbsp; However, the A5e design means I always feel like I'm loosing something since I have to: &quot;...forgo making one attack...&quot;My suggestion: Build the warlord off the paladin smite paradigm.&nbsp; The warlord gets its attacks, but can use a bonus action to do cool things. And don't limit it to just attacks.2. Followers At 5th level, you gain one follower. You gain an additional follower at 10th, 15th, and 20th level.My issue with this is that I may not want to play with &quot;followers.&quot; It is possible that this is more fluff, but I wouldn't want to loose useful things for me (the warlord) and my group to gain followers because I (the player) don't want to manage followers.&nbsp; Now, if it can be ignored with no negative impact or was archtype specific (and thus I can choose a different archtype) than I would be fine with it.&nbsp; I just don't want to loose something more interesting and useful to gain followers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 8177701, member: 83242"] ok, thank you for sharing. I've had a quick look and in generally I like it, but there are two issues IMO: [B][I]1. Commanding Presence[/I][/B][I] Starting at 1st level, you have a Commanding Presence which extends from you in a 10-foot radius. Your allies can attack at your command. When you take the Attack action, you can forgo making one attack to allow a friendly creature within range of your Commanding Presence to make an attack instead.[/I] IMO, this is biggest issue and why it doesn't seem like a 4e "warlord" to me. The 4e version could pretty much always doing something and provide support / inspiration. You were never giving anything up to do cool things. The cool things were on top of your attack / action. However, the A5e design means I always feel like I'm loosing something since I have to: "...[I]forgo making one attack..."[/I] My suggestion: Build the warlord off the paladin smite paradigm. The warlord gets its attacks, but can use a bonus action to do cool things. And don't limit it to just attacks. [B][I]2. Followers[/I][/B][I] At 5th level, you gain one follower. You gain an additional follower at 10th, 15th, and 20th level.[/I] My issue with this is that I may not want to play with "followers." It is possible that this is more fluff, but I wouldn't want to loose useful things for me (the warlord) and my group to gain followers because I (the player) don't want to manage followers. Now, if it can be ignored with no negative impact or was archtype specific (and thus I can choose a different archtype) than I would be fine with it. I just don't want to loose something more interesting and useful to gain followers. [/QUOTE]

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