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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8204072" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>I guess they are assuming that there are always going to be new DMs looking for advice, but anyone who's DMed for more than a few years is probably only going to need the occasional reminder. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is when you look at the suggestion they make and extrapolate. </p><p></p><p><strong>Situation: </strong>a tornado. </p><p><strong>Book solution: </strong>the <em>control weather </em>spell, an 8th-level spell.</p><p><strong>Player solution:</strong> the <em>gust of wind </em>spell, a 2nd-level spell.</p><p></p><p>The <em>control weather </em>spell treats Storm winds as stronger than Gale winds which are stronger than Strong winds. A tornado is presumably a Storm wind. A <em>gust of wind </em>creates a Strong wind for concentration, up to 1 minute.</p><p></p><p><strong>My take: </strong>Casting <em>control weather </em>when you see the tornados start to appear allows you to control the weather enough to completely dissipate the entire storm. It's not an insta-fix, since it takes 10-40 minutes for the magic to take hold and change the wearther ([USER=1]@Morrus[/USER], did y'all take that into consideration when the tornadoes entry was rewritten, or is this a special case, or did you rewrite <em>control weather</em>?) but as I said, you're presumably casting when you first see the bad weather arise, not when there's a twister right in front of you.</p><p></p><p>Logically, a strong wind created by <em>gust of wind </em>isn't going to do diddly against a Storm-force tornado. For the sake of player agency and fun, I would say that as long as you maintain concentration on <em>gust of wind</em>, you (and people within 5 feet of you) get a bonus, or maybe advantage, on their Athletics rolls against it. I'd allow the same bonus for people protected by <em>warding wind</em> or <em>wind wall</em>, let <em>control winds </em>or <em>whirlwind </em>unravel tornadoes one by one, and let anyone affected by <em>wind walk </em>or <em>investiture of wind</em> be unscathed by the tornado. But only <em>control weather </em>could actually end the storm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8204072, member: 6915329"] I guess they are assuming that there are always going to be new DMs looking for advice, but anyone who's DMed for more than a few years is probably only going to need the occasional reminder. This is when you look at the suggestion they make and extrapolate. [B]Situation: [/B]a tornado. [B]Book solution: [/B]the [I]control weather [/I]spell, an 8th-level spell. [B]Player solution:[/B] the [I]gust of wind [/I]spell, a 2nd-level spell. The [I]control weather [/I]spell treats Storm winds as stronger than Gale winds which are stronger than Strong winds. A tornado is presumably a Storm wind. A [I]gust of wind [/I]creates a Strong wind for concentration, up to 1 minute. [B]My take: [/B]Casting [I]control weather [/I]when you see the tornados start to appear allows you to control the weather enough to completely dissipate the entire storm. It's not an insta-fix, since it takes 10-40 minutes for the magic to take hold and change the wearther ([USER=1]@Morrus[/USER], did y'all take that into consideration when the tornadoes entry was rewritten, or is this a special case, or did you rewrite [I]control weather[/I]?) but as I said, you're presumably casting when you first see the bad weather arise, not when there's a twister right in front of you. Logically, a strong wind created by [I]gust of wind [/I]isn't going to do diddly against a Storm-force tornado. For the sake of player agency and fun, I would say that as long as you maintain concentration on [I]gust of wind[/I], you (and people within 5 feet of you) get a bonus, or maybe advantage, on their Athletics rolls against it. I'd allow the same bonus for people protected by [I]warding wind[/I] or [I]wind wall[/I], let [I]control winds [/I]or [I]whirlwind [/I]unravel tornadoes one by one, and let anyone affected by [I]wind walk [/I]or [I]investiture of wind[/I] be unscathed by the tornado. But only [I]control weather [/I]could actually end the storm. [/QUOTE]
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