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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8084046" data-attributes="member: 93670">Depends on how you define immortal. Eberron's kinda got two types of &quot;immortal&quot; elves but both are the result of ancestor worship. &nbsp;The first &amp; easiest is the Deathless that lead the <a href="http://keith-baker.com/ifaq-aerenal/" target="_blank">Arenal elves</a>. There is a ritual that transforms someone into a deathless similar to the process of becoming a lich but it uses positive energy given willingly by their descendants rather than negative energy taken by force like with the lich.&nbsp; To a degree&nbsp; this requires the <a href="https://eberron.fandom.com/wiki/Irian" target="_blank">Irian</a> manifest zone causing energy from the plane of eternal dawn/endless creation in order to maintain everything but the extent that it's required for them is left to the gm.The second are the Valenar elves.&nbsp; Rather than keeping their ancestors around as some freakish undead they try to honor their deeds/spirit/memory by following in their footsteps &amp; doing great deeds as they did in their name &amp; such.&nbsp; This works pretty well for d&amp;d since they were a slave race created by the giants who later rebelled &amp; fled with lotsa fighting &amp; it led to a race of warriors who go around with a readymade excuse to engage in murderhobo tendencies at times <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.As to our kidsa few generations down... see a lot of buggy whip makers, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_(profession)" target="_blank">coopers</a>, blacksmiths, &amp; so on?&nbsp; The jobs just won't exist &amp; some kind of star trek-type UBI fueled society would need to develop or civilization will just collapse in one of several horrible fashions.&nbsp; You can see it now to some degree though... ask a kid about tvguide, <a href="https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/is-the-save-icon-a-vending-machine-child-s-question-about-symbol-goes-viral-1.4545695" target="_blank">the vending machine on the office ribbon</a>, or just to think about why they will probably understand this famous sentence different from you &quot;The sky above the port was the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel.&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8084046, member: 93670"] Depends on how you define immortal. Eberron's kinda got two types of "immortal" elves but both are the result of ancestor worship. The first & easiest is the Deathless that lead the [URL='http://keith-baker.com/ifaq-aerenal/']Arenal elves[/URL]. There is a ritual that transforms someone into a deathless similar to the process of becoming a lich but it uses positive energy given willingly by their descendants rather than negative energy taken by force like with the lich. To a degree this requires the [URL='https://eberron.fandom.com/wiki/Irian']Irian[/URL] manifest zone causing energy from the plane of eternal dawn/endless creation in order to maintain everything but the extent that it's required for them is left to the gm. The second are the Valenar elves. Rather than keeping their ancestors around as some freakish undead they try to honor their deeds/spirit/memory by following in their footsteps & doing great deeds as they did in their name & such. This works pretty well for d&d since they were a slave race created by the giants who later rebelled & fled with lotsa fighting & it led to a race of warriors who go around with a readymade excuse to engage in murderhobo tendencies at times :D. As to our kidsa few generations down... see a lot of buggy whip makers, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_(profession)']coopers[/URL], blacksmiths, & so on? The jobs just won't exist & some kind of star trek-type UBI fueled society would need to develop or civilization will just collapse in one of several horrible fashions. You can see it now to some degree though... ask a kid about tvguide, [URL='https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/is-the-save-icon-a-vending-machine-child-s-question-about-symbol-goes-viral-1.4545695']the vending machine on the office ribbon[/URL], or just to think about why they will probably understand this famous sentence different from you "The sky above the port was the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel." ;) [/QUOTE]

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