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<blockquote data-quote="Haldrik" data-source="post: 8085133" data-attributes="member: 6694221">Size, we spoke about.In the reallife ethnic folklore that I find more meaningful, elves are the same size as humans, and sometimes assumed to be human.By the time of Shakespeare, England evolved the concept of &quot;shrinkable&quot; fairies, because they are spirits, relating to angels that can dance on the head of a pin. The more powerful the spirit, the finer they are and the smaller they can shrink. Angels can be smaller than the eye can see. Shakespeare mentions that the fairy can be as small as the gem of a signet ring, and hide under a thimble. Nevertheless, Shakespeare describes the fairy as human children, about ages four to eighteen. Likewise, the fairies are the same size as humans, as normal for these human ages. By the Victorian Era, English fairy are simply tiny, normally. In short (heh), small elves are ethnocentric.Outside of England, other ethnic groups maintain normal human sizes for elves. For example, in Scottish folklore, the definition of an &quot;elf&quot; is &quot;a man sized fairy&quot;. Ethnic traditions across Scandinavia have elves be human size.Note, the D&amp;D eladrin elves can be taller than humans (and Pathfinder elves are normally taller).For D&amp;D, I prefer to see the elves as the same size as humans, on average. Each elven family or culture might tend toward a particular size, smaller or larger, but individuals might exist of any size in any elven community.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Haldrik, post: 8085133, member: 6694221"] Size, we spoke about. In the reallife ethnic folklore that I find more meaningful, elves are the same size as humans, and sometimes assumed to be human. By the time of Shakespeare, England evolved the concept of "shrinkable" fairies, because they are spirits, relating to angels that can dance on the head of a pin. The more powerful the spirit, the finer they are and the smaller they can shrink. Angels can be smaller than the eye can see. Shakespeare mentions that the fairy can be as small as the gem of a signet ring, and hide under a thimble. Nevertheless, Shakespeare describes the fairy as human children, about ages four to eighteen. Likewise, the fairies are the same size as humans, as normal for these human ages. By the Victorian Era, English fairy are simply tiny, normally. In short (heh), small elves are ethnocentric. Outside of England, other ethnic groups maintain normal human sizes for elves. For example, in Scottish folklore, the definition of an "elf" is "a man sized fairy". Ethnic traditions across Scandinavia have elves be human size. Note, the D&D eladrin elves can be taller than humans (and Pathfinder elves are normally taller). For D&D, I prefer to see the elves as the same size as humans, on average. Each elven family or culture might tend toward a particular size, smaller or larger, but individuals might exist of any size in any elven community. [/QUOTE]

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