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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haldrik" data-source="post: 8086091" data-attributes="member: 6694221">[USER=93670]@tetrasodium[/USER]I tend to agree that each setting, especially its cosmology (world setting), needs to be allowed to be separate from each other.If there is a table whose GM wants to combine two settings, have at it! And there should be conventional variant options for how to go about joining them.But the default should be, let things be separate.My main point is, the Level Up elf, corresponds moreorless to the Forgotten Realms cosmology. The immortality of the elf makes sense in that context, especially if 100-year-old or older tend to relocate to the Feywild.Meanwhile, this model works for Eberron too, where an immortal elf might relocate to Thelanis. I get it, that the material elves evolved differently from the fey elves. That is fine with me. Thelanis can still be relevant to the material elves. Perhaps it is normal for Eberron elves who live long to relocate to Thelanis? It might even be, the high elves create the Deathless as a method that prevents an immortal elf from leaving the Material Plane. Meanwhile, the immortal wood elves become "spirits". Perhaps this means, these immortal wood elves no longer inhabit the Material Plane, but now instead inhabit the Plane of Thelanis as immaterial immortal elf spirits. Meanwhile, the wood elves back home in the material world, maintain a personal family connection with these immortal wood elves who are now in Thelanis. All in all, the immortality of elves seems doable in Eberron. And the eladrin in Thelanis explicitly include immortal members.I havent looked too closely at Dark Sun elves, and we dont know yet how 5e will handle the Feywild. Note, Dark Sun seems to already have the Plane of Shadowfell, equivalent to The Gray. There might be a Plane of Feywild somehow too. Note, in 4e and 5e, the "Shadow Plane" of The Black folded into Shadowfell, the realm of the dead. So, there is no equivalent anymore for The Black. Perhaps now, the Black can serve as a bleak version of Feywild, a faint realm of illusion ... and dreaming.You mention, the Dark Sun elves descend from halflings. Even so, Dark Sun includes various kinds of epic level beings, so immortals exist within Dark Sun setting too. The "avangions" are psion-wizard beings of light and life (vaguely reminiscent of solar elf themes). The "preserver" avangions metamorphose into something like butterflies, contra to the "defiler" sorcerer kings who metamorphose into something like dragons. Immortal elves might become avangions. Or perhaps there is a special kind of immortal being that the immortal elf tends to become. In any case, immortal elves make sense in Dark Sun too.</blockquote>

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