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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8222513" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Thoughts time! I've always liked bards quite a bit (and <em>no</em>, not as an excuse to be randy!) even though I'm not musical, so let's see...</p><p></p><p><strong>Art Specialty: </strong>Yay for going beyond mere instruments! Is it bad that my first thought was "mime-bard"? Although shouldn't that be wind instruments and not air instruments? I don't know from music terms. I'm not entirely sold on the special abilities you get for your instrument of choice, though. I kinda feel like your choice of art should be more RP than mechanical.</p><p></p><p><strong>Battle Hymn: </strong>It took me a minute, but I think I like these. The names, at least, gave me a real The Slaughter vibe (Magnus Archives). I feel like there should be some effects to cause fear or confusion (please tell me you have a standard Confused condition!). </p><p></p><p>However, I think that they should always require concentration. And I'm not fond of the 8th-level ability to have two songs up at once. </p><p></p><p><strong>Jack of All Trades </strong>plus <strong>Varied Experience </strong>seems a bit too much to me. Maybe Varied Experience needs to be higher in level.</p><p></p><p><strong>Bardic Legend: </strong>Can you write this song about a <em>specific </em>individual, or does it have to be about "you and your allies" as a group?</p><p></p><p>How's about an ability that lets you create a <em>mocking </em>song? Or one that would make people angry at an individual? If not as Bardic Legends, then how about as new Battle Hymns?</p><p></p><p><strong>Bewitching Companion: </strong>Esteem mechanic, huh? Tell me more, please.</p><p></p><p><strong>Brutish Confrontation: </strong>I choose Medicine! That gives a bonus to ambush people! I don't think this knack makes a lot of sense. Ditto <strong>Resonance;</strong> an expertise die <em>plus </em>enhanced duration on any ritual spell? Basically, for these knacks and the others like them, I think you should limit what skills can be taken for each one. Brutish Confrontation means you have to choose from Stealth, Survival, Nature, etc., not just <em>any </em>skill.</p><p></p><p><strong>Sly Confident: </strong>This needs a time limit, or else you're going to end up with people who succeed and then get to use the bonus a week later.</p><p></p><p><strong>Song of Rest: </strong>So this is a knack now, hmm?</p><p></p><p>I think you need a "music hath charms" knack that lets them have a bonus when dealing with beasts and low-Int monstrosities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8222513, member: 6915329"] Thoughts time! I've always liked bards quite a bit (and [I]no[/I], not as an excuse to be randy!) even though I'm not musical, so let's see... [B]Art Specialty: [/B]Yay for going beyond mere instruments! Is it bad that my first thought was "mime-bard"? Although shouldn't that be wind instruments and not air instruments? I don't know from music terms. I'm not entirely sold on the special abilities you get for your instrument of choice, though. I kinda feel like your choice of art should be more RP than mechanical. [B]Battle Hymn: [/B]It took me a minute, but I think I like these. The names, at least, gave me a real The Slaughter vibe (Magnus Archives). I feel like there should be some effects to cause fear or confusion (please tell me you have a standard Confused condition!). However, I think that they should always require concentration. And I'm not fond of the 8th-level ability to have two songs up at once. [B]Jack of All Trades [/B]plus [B]Varied Experience [/B]seems a bit too much to me. Maybe Varied Experience needs to be higher in level. [B]Bardic Legend: [/B]Can you write this song about a [I]specific [/I]individual, or does it have to be about "you and your allies" as a group? How's about an ability that lets you create a [I]mocking [/I]song? Or one that would make people angry at an individual? If not as Bardic Legends, then how about as new Battle Hymns? [B]Bewitching Companion: [/B]Esteem mechanic, huh? Tell me more, please. [B]Brutish Confrontation: [/B]I choose Medicine! That gives a bonus to ambush people! I don't think this knack makes a lot of sense. Ditto [B]Resonance;[/B] an expertise die [I]plus [/I]enhanced duration on any ritual spell? Basically, for these knacks and the others like them, I think you should limit what skills can be taken for each one. Brutish Confrontation means you have to choose from Stealth, Survival, Nature, etc., not just [I]any [/I]skill. [B]Sly Confident: [/B]This needs a time limit, or else you're going to end up with people who succeed and then get to use the bonus a week later. [B]Song of Rest: [/B]So this is a knack now, hmm? I think you need a "music hath charms" knack that lets them have a bonus when dealing with beasts and low-Int monstrosities. [/QUOTE]
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