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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9205411" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I mean, I already asked for you to give some examples of what you consider to be well-made &quot;zero level&quot; characters...bit frustrating to be told &quot;nah, how about you give me concepts to make.&quot; Because, frankly, the issue isn't that I don't think you can do something you find adequate. I'm sure you can. The issue is that I don't think these things you've described would be adequate to me.I had had more here, but perhaps it is not necessary to say so much, not yet anyway.I'm aware. These rules aren't for everyone. They're for those folks who love playing through those &quot;who am I, how did I get to be what I am&quot; stories, who want every proverbial step to be a trial unto itself. I, personally, have little to no use for such things. But I absolutely will die on the hill of including them, because they would be extremely useful for a large minority group of D&amp;D fans. (As above, I could say more, but perhaps it is better to be concise at this time.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9205411, member: 6790260"] I mean, I already asked for you to give some examples of what you consider to be well-made "zero level" characters...bit frustrating to be told "nah, how about you give me concepts to make." Because, frankly, the issue isn't that I don't think you can do something you find adequate. I'm sure you can. The issue is that I don't think these things you've described would be adequate to [I]me[/I]. I had had more here, but perhaps it is not necessary to say so much, not yet anyway. I'm aware. These rules aren't for everyone. They're for those folks who love playing through those "who am I, how did I get to be what I am" stories, who want every proverbial step to be a trial unto itself. I, personally, have little to no use for such things. But I absolutely will die on the hill of including them, because they [I]would[/I] be extremely useful for a large minority group of D&D fans. (As above, I could say more, but perhaps it is better to be concise at this time.) [/QUOTE]

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