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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 4981991" data-attributes="member: 59057">no, thats not right. Wizards in 2e have 10d6 fireballs.Those are so devastating to enemies that you don´t need much more. So a wizard of lvl 10 is about as powerful as a wizard of lvl 20 in 3e compared to the monsters.You get to be epic when you reach level 12, where you get your first lvl 6 spell. I have played a module where you should level up from one to 15 twice in ADnD. We played with 5 or 6 members and were level 10 - 12 depending on class when we finished it. I DM'ed it for 3rd edition, with 5 - 6 players, not adjusting a single encounter and when we had to stop they were level 12 at 2/3 of the adventure. And 90% of the challenges were exactly as chellenging as I hoped them to be. No more and no less. Monsters in 3e are a lot tougher and more dangerous than in 2nd edition. And wizards in 2nd edition were much more powerful compared to the challenges they had to face than a 3rd edition one.Also in 2nd edition there were spells much more versatile (illusion, ice rain, wall of ice etc...) and much more powerful (stoneskin/fireshield combo, Feuerhülle, improved blink, and not to forget Farbkugel the first level save or die spell... which petrified on a successful safe... oh and of course magic missle was no joke back than... you could singlehandedly shutdown 5 higher level spellcasters)</blockquote>