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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5850207" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Oh please do not go back to the idea of PC's and NPC's use the same rules. No thank you. I have absolutely no problem with a 12 HD orc as the chieftain. The HD don't mean anything and never, ever have, IMO. A creature had X HD has always been a purely game mechanic. Applying it to an in game reality has always been a mistake.</p><p></p><p>Why on earth does a troll have 6+6 HD? There's no logical reason for it. It's got that HD because a troll is meant as a mid range opponent in AD&D. That's the only reason. If they had decided that trolls were more cannon fodder, they would have had 2 HD, for the exact same reason - it's meant as a low level monster.</p><p></p><p>When you actually intentionally break HD from any in game reason, then there's no reason that an orc can't have 15 HD. Why not? Why does an orc have to be a 15th level barbarian? Did he adventure to that point? How did he get there? I daresay that the vast majority of DM's out there don't care one whit. He's a 15th level barbarian because the party is level X and needs a challenge. Well, if you're going to go that route, then go all the way - HD=challenge needed for the particular adventure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5850207, member: 22779"] Oh please do not go back to the idea of PC's and NPC's use the same rules. No thank you. I have absolutely no problem with a 12 HD orc as the chieftain. The HD don't mean anything and never, ever have, IMO. A creature had X HD has always been a purely game mechanic. Applying it to an in game reality has always been a mistake. Why on earth does a troll have 6+6 HD? There's no logical reason for it. It's got that HD because a troll is meant as a mid range opponent in AD&D. That's the only reason. If they had decided that trolls were more cannon fodder, they would have had 2 HD, for the exact same reason - it's meant as a low level monster. When you actually intentionally break HD from any in game reason, then there's no reason that an orc can't have 15 HD. Why not? Why does an orc have to be a 15th level barbarian? Did he adventure to that point? How did he get there? I daresay that the vast majority of DM's out there don't care one whit. He's a 15th level barbarian because the party is level X and needs a challenge. Well, if you're going to go that route, then go all the way - HD=challenge needed for the particular adventure. [/QUOTE]
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