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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 545926" data-attributes="member: 704">Misplaced Reasoning...Well, here is my outlook at the situation.Most players take a look at the level advancement benefits of all of the available classes.  Fighters get new feats every other level.  Clerics, Bards, Sorcerers, and Wizards get new spells every level.  Rogues get at least a new sneak attack die every other level.  Monks get a completely new ability every at almost every level.However, a Rangers most appealing class benefits come just from taking 1 level in the class, and the favored enemy only improves every 5th level.  And it is no secret that most players do not like the favored enemy advancement of the ranger.  The Paladin gets some very nice class abilities, but by 6th level, you only get increased uses of Improved disease.  Both Rangers and Paladins do get more spells, but the spells really arent going to turn the tide of any great fights.Barbarians get some great abilities early, and some nice stuff at higher levels, but levels 6 through 11 only give you one more Rage per day.  And many DM's usually end up running games that provide many opportunities for the players to rest.I dont know why anyone would say that fighter is not that useful after 10th level.  However, it may be that by 10th level, most players have already obtained all of the combat feats that they think their character should have.  A quick count give me 10 Feats (11 if your human) for a 10th level character.  That covers Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Improved Initiative, and one of the  "feat chains" (such as Power attack -> Cleave -> Great Cleave +  Sunder + Bull Rush).   At 10th level, a fighter could have all of those with room to spare.Anyway, I have not yet been able to run a campaign long enough for such things to become a problem.END COMMUNICATION</blockquote>

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