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Message: <blockquote data-quote="freyar" data-source="post: 3536138" data-attributes="member: 40227">Thanks for all the comments so far, everyone!Point taken about that!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> I'd argue that the RAW actually suggest that overcoming any sort of obstacle (or even facing it) is sufficient for XP gain, and it doesn't have to be a life-or-limb-threatening obstacle.  For example, you don't have to defeat an NPC or monster, just get around them on your way wherever you're going.  (Then there are traps...)  So IRL, I'd suggest that education (possibly even at the HS level) grants some experience.  I'm not sure the rate, though, still thinking about it.I'd agree, though I guess we might be starting at different comparison points.  More below.Just looking up the Knowledge and Profession skills, I'd like to suggest that this is more of a Profession check, since it's research, not recall (which is what Knowledge seems like).  But this is a trivial point.  The important thing about taking 20 is that it would take a lot of time.  In 1905, Einstein published 4 papers solving 3 problems which had stumped all of the world's physics community for years.  Not that I have experience solving that kind of problem (I only wish, since it would make finding a permanent job much easier!  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" />), but even the best case scenario IME is months per problem.  Maybe that's taking 20, though I'd feel more comfortable saying that's taking 10.  And given the success rate of others, I'd peg this at quite a hard DC.Incidentally, I'd say that taking 20 is comparable to Einstein's work on General Relativity, which took more than a decade.True, you've done quite a good job.  I guess my main quibble is with the degree of separation from everyone else and what the level of everyone else is.  Based on the "community modifiers" and "highest-level locals" tables in the DMG (pg 139), a metropolis can easily have a 19th level expert (or higher), and I'd suggest this is perhaps the kind of spread we're supposed to expect.  Anyway, I'd put Einstein higher than your average expert in a metropolis.  So it's a matter of what we think the appropriate DC is.BTW, very interesting comments about XP from education, commoners vs. experts, etc.  And to everyone!  I'm inclined to agree that the industrialized world has a bias toward experts, though there are probably quite a few commoners, too.  Maybe divide into service/technology vs production sectors?  I don't know.  But I'd argue that most people (ignoring combat status) are beyond 1st level, though.  Just my 2 cents.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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