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<blockquote data-quote="Morlock" data-source="post: 6791231" data-attributes="member: 6776981"><p>I wouldn't give Luke a single sub-average stat, even at the start of the first movie.</p><p></p><p>Also, Luke seems higher than level 1 even at the start of the first movie. He kills quite a few stormtroopers and makes it out of the death star without a scratch. Then he levels up and destroys quite a few enemy craft, and finally the death star.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Though the movies never emphasized it, Luke was a leader of men and presumably well-respected. Sub-average CHA seems ill-thought-out. He was also fairly good-looking, which is something generally rolled into CHA, IMO.</p><p></p><p>(ETA: look at how many rebel pilots start deferring to him as the battle of Yaavin progresses)</p><p></p><p>Giving him a sub-average CHA would seem to elevate the truly average in CHA far above their proper station. Average person is a mope in terms of CHA (will never get near the silver screen), and that's what CHA 9-10 is supposed to reflect (ETA: doh! I meant 10-11 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed. Gandalf was essentially a divine being. A demon like a Balrog strikes me as a CR20 kind of threat. Even if you low-ball it, CR10 at least.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This. D&D at mid levels has always been pretty epic, and at high levels, characters are more like gods.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morlock, post: 6791231, member: 6776981"] I wouldn't give Luke a single sub-average stat, even at the start of the first movie. Also, Luke seems higher than level 1 even at the start of the first movie. He kills quite a few stormtroopers and makes it out of the death star without a scratch. Then he levels up and destroys quite a few enemy craft, and finally the death star. Though the movies never emphasized it, Luke was a leader of men and presumably well-respected. Sub-average CHA seems ill-thought-out. He was also fairly good-looking, which is something generally rolled into CHA, IMO. (ETA: look at how many rebel pilots start deferring to him as the battle of Yaavin progresses) Giving him a sub-average CHA would seem to elevate the truly average in CHA far above their proper station. Average person is a mope in terms of CHA (will never get near the silver screen), and that's what CHA 9-10 is supposed to reflect (ETA: doh! I meant 10-11 :P). Indeed. Gandalf was essentially a divine being. A demon like a Balrog strikes me as a CR20 kind of threat. Even if you low-ball it, CR10 at least. This. D&D at mid levels has always been pretty epic, and at high levels, characters are more like gods. [/QUOTE]
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