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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheLoneRanger1979" data-source="post: 6794803" data-attributes="member: 6804148">Good points. Another thing about the article is that it kind of represents some of Gandalf's abilities as lighting bolts and fireballs. It also assumes a mage or a similar arcane caster. In the books Gandalf's spells are sometimes portrayed as fire based, but more often his greater feats (when fending off Nazgul and fighting the Balrog) are more closely related to words of power and divine fire/light. If the clash at Weathertop is taken into account he used what seams to be a variant of Flame strike/Burst of flames. I have no idea what level of spell that is in 5E, but in 2E it was lvl 6 or 7. That alone would place him in the early or mid teen levels of 2E. And finally, he is not a mage. He does not learn magic from scrolls. His powers are a manifestation of his nature, even though he can interact with tech and magical objects, just like Saruman did. The other examples?Aragorn should be between lvl 6-12, i'd say lvl 10 probably in a class that doesn't exist in 5E, or a multi classed character with unique background (healing and foresight). The sword Anduril is definitely magical in its nature after reforging. "Many runes of protection" were placed on it (it could be designated as a "Defender" weapon in 2E, +AC and saving throws). It also glowed with magical "fire" and raised the morale of the allies and lowered that of the enemies. The rest of the hard hitters in the Fellowship were probably between lvl 5 and 10 as well. The elves are of course not DnD elves and start with better stats and innate bonuses then humans. Dwarves too. Imrahil and Eomer are described as of such a skill in battle that they and Aragorn get trough the battle of Pellenor Fields unscathed. Stat wise? In 2E and 3E, Aragorn would probably be Str 16, Dex 17 or 18, Con 19 (higher then all living men). Mental stats would be more difficult to assign. Wis at least 14, probably 16. Int of 12-14. Cha is the trickiest. All that talk about "seamed fairer but feel fouler" lets me think a wide range of 8-14. In 5E, this array would be 14-16-17-12-14-12. Definitely not a point buy, but then again Aragorn is unique. Conan is even harder to pinpoint. The long time span of his adventures doesn't make it easier. At the peak of his physical might, he was among the strongest (but not THE strongest man alive) so 2E Str 18/90+ or 5e 16-17. He was agile as a "panther" so Dex of 18 in 2E, or 16 in 5E. His Con is extremely high as well, easily 18 or 16, depending on edition. He probably starts with the tough feat as part of a special background and has even more HP then usual. His levels could be anywhere from lvl 4 when he leaves Cimmeria as a youth, to over 12 before he even becomes a king.EDIT: A note on Gandalf spell casting. He does not seam to expend spell slots when he casts, but rather his own life force or at least his stamina. In 5E terms, i would say he expends hit dice, depending on level of sell cast.</blockquote>

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