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<blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 3691403" data-attributes="member: 1325"><p>I dispute your arguments. The personally powerful, can exhert no authority further than their own finger tips. It takes some form of recognition by a higher authority, to actually convince another to concur, and transfer allegiance. Personally powerful characters can be pariahs, exiled, and excommunicated.</p><p></p><p>You argument on Gilgamesh is circular: You say "He was King because he was powerful. He was powerful, therefore he was King" It neither proves nor disproves your theory.</p><p></p><p>You refer to historical-mythological figures like Gilagamesh, yet disregard the examples I have given of other historical figures. What you are refering to may be valid in a simple society of barbarians and uncouthed louts, yet would not be accepted a civilised nation of reasonable men. </p><p></p><p>Consider the fate of the Greek Hercules (not the tv show). Where was his Kingdom? The strongest man on Earth. By your reckoning, such a man should've owned the world, in a manner akin to Gilgamesh. </p><p></p><p>I chose my examples from post-renaissance merely for their easy recognition from modern literature. Once you have established the Right of Kings to rule through Divinity (all of Europe through the middle ages, in what is generally regarded as the "temporal flavour" of DnD), then you have a firm reason to assume usurping power will not be regarded as trivial. </p><p></p><p>Do you not find it interesting that all the great civilisations of eras past, had families inheriting leadership based on some form of "Divine Right"? That includes Babylon, and Maya which is far, far prior to "post renaissance". That they obviously felt the need to secure their positions of power with such intricacies? </p><p></p><p>In a DnD world, such rulers would take note of rising adventurers, and use them as well. Gaining their influence and friendship. Ensuring their aid when a crisis may arrive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="green slime, post: 3691403, member: 1325"] I dispute your arguments. The personally powerful, can exhert no authority further than their own finger tips. It takes some form of recognition by a higher authority, to actually convince another to concur, and transfer allegiance. Personally powerful characters can be pariahs, exiled, and excommunicated. You argument on Gilgamesh is circular: You say "He was King because he was powerful. He was powerful, therefore he was King" It neither proves nor disproves your theory. You refer to historical-mythological figures like Gilagamesh, yet disregard the examples I have given of other historical figures. What you are refering to may be valid in a simple society of barbarians and uncouthed louts, yet would not be accepted a civilised nation of reasonable men. Consider the fate of the Greek Hercules (not the tv show). Where was his Kingdom? The strongest man on Earth. By your reckoning, such a man should've owned the world, in a manner akin to Gilgamesh. I chose my examples from post-renaissance merely for their easy recognition from modern literature. Once you have established the Right of Kings to rule through Divinity (all of Europe through the middle ages, in what is generally regarded as the "temporal flavour" of DnD), then you have a firm reason to assume usurping power will not be regarded as trivial. Do you not find it interesting that all the great civilisations of eras past, had families inheriting leadership based on some form of "Divine Right"? That includes Babylon, and Maya which is far, far prior to "post renaissance". That they obviously felt the need to secure their positions of power with such intricacies? In a DnD world, such rulers would take note of rising adventurers, and use them as well. Gaining their influence and friendship. Ensuring their aid when a crisis may arrive. [/QUOTE]
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