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<blockquote data-quote="Tom Cashel" data-source="post: 167809" data-attributes="member: 321"><p><strong>NO!</strong></p><p></p><p>See this thread for a similar discussion of "ends justifying the means": <a href="http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11314" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11314</a></p><p></p><p>You may choose to make it so in your campaign, but in the D&D rules alignment is <strong>not</strong> relative! There is a balance to the cosmos, and it all depends on good and evil.</p><p></p><p>As I said in the aforementioned thread, there is only one gray area in D&D where evil acts may result in good ends: it's called neutrality.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps a CG or NG individual could do such things, if the DM is lenient...but Good and Evil are absolutes in D&D. I'm not making any claims about the real world, mind you, but D&D isn't <em>quite</em> the real world. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Basically, what I'm saying is that paladins pay for their 27 special powers by having to stick to a code of behavior. It's not always easy to achieve good by doing good, but that's why they're paladins and they get all those powers.</p><p></p><p>How many Star Trek:TNG episodes have their been where someone says to Picard, for example, "We only have two choices! We can abandon them, or we can fight!" Good might be achieved by morally repugnant means, but Picard would always say, "Then we have to find another way."</p><p></p><p>In your example of the Failing Dike, the only "paladinly" thing to do is to use Leadership to convince people to help you, and then sacrifice yourself along with them when the dike goes. If you live, then obviously your god respects what a great paladin you are.</p><p></p><p>Nobody said it was easy to be a paladin; although people seem to want to make it that way. Hey, that's fine. To each his own. But that's not how the rules paint it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tom Cashel, post: 167809, member: 321"] [b]NO![/b] See this thread for a similar discussion of "ends justifying the means": [url]http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11314[/url] You may choose to make it so in your campaign, but in the D&D rules alignment is [b]not[/b] relative! There is a balance to the cosmos, and it all depends on good and evil. As I said in the aforementioned thread, there is only one gray area in D&D where evil acts may result in good ends: it's called neutrality. Perhaps a CG or NG individual could do such things, if the DM is lenient...but Good and Evil are absolutes in D&D. I'm not making any claims about the real world, mind you, but D&D isn't [i]quite[/i] the real world. ;) Basically, what I'm saying is that paladins pay for their 27 special powers by having to stick to a code of behavior. It's not always easy to achieve good by doing good, but that's why they're paladins and they get all those powers. How many Star Trek:TNG episodes have their been where someone says to Picard, for example, "We only have two choices! We can abandon them, or we can fight!" Good might be achieved by morally repugnant means, but Picard would always say, "Then we have to find another way." In your example of the Failing Dike, the only "paladinly" thing to do is to use Leadership to convince people to help you, and then sacrifice yourself along with them when the dike goes. If you live, then obviously your god respects what a great paladin you are. Nobody said it was easy to be a paladin; although people seem to want to make it that way. Hey, that's fine. To each his own. But that's not how the rules paint it. [/QUOTE]
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